Kivan and Tazok

[Guest CreditCrunch]

Greetings,

 

I've been a long time fan of your mod. I'm playing once more the series through and this time with Kivan in the party. I'm now in bandit camp killing everyone who come across. Did i just mess up some content since i didn't join bandits with Kivan? Tazok is nowhere to be found. Too bad i've got no option in my savegames either. I killed Raiken in peldvale much earlier, but Teven is still there. However it seems like Teven (larswood) always notices Kivan in my party (preventing me from joining). Will this be a problem?

 

Kivan earlier complained that we should hurry with the killing of bandits and Tazok.

[cmorgan]

Kivan is a known quantity - i am pretty sure every pathway to joining the bandits is closed by having him in he party. You can still do the entire quest (I have played a zillion times and never taken the "join up with the bandits" approach except for during fast test runs). You should eventually meet up with the three folks and have a battle - you may even be able to kill Tazok, which again will not break anything

[Domi]

Actually you can - one bandit recognizes Kivan, and the second doesn't . I think you've killed the one who doesn't You will still have a livid ranger on your hands if you join the bandits the moment you face Tazok.

[Guest CreditCrunch]

Actually you can - one bandit recognizes Kivan, and the second doesn't . I think you've killed the one who doesn't You will still have a livid ranger on your hands if you join the bandits the moment you face Tazok.

 

Heh, i'm now well past the bandit camp. I guess i'll have to wait Tazok until the final battle. Would have liked to get him in the camp though and hear some thoughts from Kivan. It was exactly as Domi said. I guess you have to join the bandits with Raiken or else... I hope Kivan doesn't leave the party though, if he has to wait several hundred days for his revenge. By the way does Tazok appear in the final fight with this mod? Even if you kill him in the camp?

[Domi]

Yes, because it's BG's default behavoir, and Kivan has a few choice things to say about it iirc. Unless my imagination fails me.

[-JR-]

I've been reading through Kivan's dialogue files, which seems to have an option where Tazok refuses to fight him and leaves for the Cloakwood mines. However, all I have been able to find in the game is the fight to the death right outside the bandit camp. Is there a new area Tazok sometimes spawns in? The bandits around him go hostile when he recognizes Kivan, but there are also dialogues in Kivan's file supposedly from a bandit, saying something along the lines of "Yo, Tazok's dead, I think you did it," which I assumed took place in the bandit camp after the journal entry "we killed Tazok before he raised the alarm so we should still be able to sneak into the camp," came to pass.

 

Also, whose dialogue triggers Kivan's comments at the end of the game? Sarevok? Which file contains the altered talks at the end of the game depending on earlier actions involving Tazok? I can't find it in any of Sarevok or Kivan's dialogues.

[Domi]

No, there are no new areas. I don't remember now how many options were there, but there were a few, dependent on PC's choices. This component will also conflict with whatever they did in the UB, so if you have both installed, you might be seeing a potpurri of things.

[-JR-]

How do I get Tazok to walk away from the fight with Kivan in the party? There seems to be dialogue for it in the files, but in my games he always wants to fight to the death. Also, how do you kill Tazok without alerting the bandit camp, which is also aluded to in the dialogue files.