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Raemon and company jump right out and attack me the moment I step foot in the camp and then everything turns hostile. I have no chance at all of going around and looking at everything before choosing my ground.

 

Is this a better calls for help issue? I shouldn't think so as they -start- by being red and coming after me.

 

help appreciated :crazyeyes:

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Raemon and company jump right out and attack me the moment I step foot in the camp and then everything turns hostile. I have no chance at all of going around and looking at everything before choosing my ground.

 

Is this a better calls for help issue? I shouldn't think so as they -start- by being red and coming after me.

 

help appreciated :crazyeyes:

Here has MrHell reported the same:

http://forums.gibberlings3.net/index.php?showtopic=17151

 

Do you play BG1Tutu, too?

 

Greetings Leomar

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Raemon and company jump right out and attack me the moment I step foot in the camp and then everything turns hostile. I have no chance at all of going around and looking at everything before choosing my ground.

 

Is this a better calls for help issue? I shouldn't think so as they -start- by being red and coming after me.

 

help appreciated :crazyeyes:

Here has MrHell reported the same:

http://forums.gibberlings3.net/index.php?showtopic=17151

 

Do you play BG1Tutu, too?

 

Greetings Leomar

 

EasyTutu with Tutufix, BG2Tweaks and SCS installed.

 

So I am taking it this is a tutu problem and not an SCS problem? :)

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Raemon and company jump right out and attack me the moment I step foot in the camp and then everything turns hostile. I have no chance at all of going around and looking at everything before choosing my ground.

 

Is this a better calls for help issue? I shouldn't think so as they -start- by being red and coming after me.

 

help appreciated :crazyeyes:

Here has MrHell reported the same:

http://forums.gibberlings3.net/index.php?showtopic=17151

 

Do you play BG1Tutu, too?

 

Greetings Leomar

 

EasyTutu with Tutufix, BG2Tweaks and SCS installed.

 

So I am taking it this is a tutu problem and not an SCS problem? :)

I don't know if the problem exist with Tutu only. If not, then another mod causes the problem. But sorry if I can't help you here, because I don't use Tutu and perhaps someone else can help you. I think it will be helpful for the others if you can post your WeiDU.log.

 

Greetings Leomar

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This happened to me also, and I had the same mods installed (easyTutu etc). Is the entire camp supposed to go hostile as soon as you set foot in the area? I couldn't remember how it played out the last time I played BG.

 

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This happened to me also, and I had the same mods installed (easyTutu etc). Is the entire camp supposed to go hostile as soon as you set foot in the area? I couldn't remember how it played out the last time I played BG.
Well, if you remember it, normally when you enter the camp from the world map(no via a dialog), all the bandit's are hostile in the camp, so the SCS just makes then all run to you cause the shout they use has just so large area effect range(57), which is larger than the normal visual range(30+perhaps 1 or 2).

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This happened to me also, and I had the same mods installed (easyTutu etc). Is the entire camp supposed to go hostile as soon as you set foot in the area? I couldn't remember how it played out the last time I played BG.
Well, if you remember it, normally when you enter the camp from the world map(no via a dialog), all the bandit's are hostile in the camp, so the SCS just makes then all run to you cause the shout they use has just so large area effect range(57), which is larger than the normal visual range(30+perhaps 1 or 2).

In the vanilla game, if you enter via dialogue, only Tazok is hostile.

With SCS, the whole camp(including those inside Tazok's tent turn up and attack you.

(Again with Tutu installed)

Is this what is meant to happen?

I thought that in the vanilla game, there was a deliberate descision to differentiate between Tazok and everyone else. It certainly looks that way.

With SCS, has there been a deliberate decision not to go along with that?

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Same thing happens to me, also had the same mods installed (easyTutu etc). Worse of all, the tent guys follow my PC everywhere, even if he's invisible or hidden. It was the same with the relocated assassins. It's very vexing, and it takes all the realism of the game.

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In the vanilla game, if you enter via dialogue, only Tazok is hostile.

With SCS, the whole camp(including those inside Tazok's tent turn up and attack you.

(Again with Tutu installed)

Is this what is meant to happen?

I think not. Only if the bandits go hostile (for whatever in-game reason), the script should be activated.

 

Greetings Leomar

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The SCS makes the guards inside Tazok's tent go out hostile and intercept your party right after being recruited. Since there is some distance which has to be travelled by them (between Tazok's tent and the party location), there is some time for the party to be prepared for the encounter. This includes choosing fighting ground. Of course, if the party follows the 'vanilla' path - entering the non-hostile camp - when intercepted a couple of rounds later by Tazok's guards, all bandits nearby will turn hostile, and the distant ones will also turn hostile, seeing the nearest hostile bandit.

 

If your party stays outside of the camp (and out of neutral bandit sight), the party will have to fight ONLY Tazok's guards. And afterwards rest and enter the neutral bandit camp (eventually slaying the bandits later). Here you simply have 2 options - facing all bandits at once in a glorious battle, or taking them out separately.

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I don't think the problem is having to fight them, it's the way it happens, how they follow the PC like a homing beacon.

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I have a similar problem in Candlekeep.

Not with numbers but when I am fighting the assassin to the north, forgotten whether it is Shank or Carbos, he follows my character around the room even though he is hidden.

The reason I hid was to move away in order to use a bow.

There is something wrong if you are being followed when hidden in shadows.

It makes me think that there is a generic problem which needs to be dealt with.

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The SCS makes the guards inside Tazok's tent go out hostile and intercept your party right after being recruited. Since there is some distance which has to be travelled by them (between Tazok's tent and the party location), there is some time for the party to be prepared for the encounter. This includes choosing fighting ground. Of course, if the party follows the 'vanilla' path - entering the non-hostile camp - when intercepted a couple of rounds later by Tazok's guards, all bandits nearby will turn hostile, and the distant ones will also turn hostile, seeing the nearest hostile bandit.

 

If your party stays outside of the camp (and out of neutral bandit sight), the party will have to fight ONLY Tazok's guards. And afterwards rest and enter the neutral bandit camp (eventually slaying the bandits later). Here you simply have 2 options - facing all bandits at once in a glorious battle, or taking them out separately.

 

The problem I had/have, is that the bandits inside the main tent are always red, and nomatter what path I choose they will home in on me the second I enter the map (whether as undercover or not.) They then turn all the other bandits red because of it and I have no choice but to fight the whole camp.

 

It is a major problem to a degree that is gamebreaking and forces one to play through a situation that is aggravating when one expected something else.

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This didn't happen in my last game. The 4 named guards ambushed me about halfway up the left side of the map, (On the road, which is my path to the camp, go up the road to the top and attack Ardenor Crush 1st) but no one else was with them except the Black Talon Elites that were added to the tent as part of the component. The calls for help only started once I attacked Ardenor, as they probably should do.

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Considering it's been patched for a while that you can can't kill Tazok, why would you bother being recruited anyways? In any case one wand of fire still pretty much solves the entire camp regardless of SCS.

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