Order of installation might need to be updated.

[Grimwald]

I have been having problems with a rogue rebalancing item, namely the Darkveil that does not protect against medusas in BG1.

On the rogue rebalancing forum, I was given a different installation order to that given on this one. Is it that this one needs an update? Reading between the lines I think that it may be more complex than that.

[Shaitan]

Medusas in BG1?

[Ankhesenpaaten]

I think he means the basilisks.

[Wisp]

Nope. He means medusas. Apparently they are part of the Gavin mod.

[Shaitan]

Nope. He means medusas. Apparently they are part of the Gavin mod.

How to get them? I'm usually playing with Gavin in my party?

[Grimwald]

Nope. He means medusas. Apparently they are part of the Gavin mod.

How to get them? I'm usually playing with Gavin in my party?

I'm not 100% sure that they are part of the Gavin mod, but they are definitely there.

At first I thought that they were part of SCS.

I read on a thread somewhere that they came from the Gavin mod.

Have you been sent to deal with Mutamin by the priest of Lathander east of Beregost?

Anyone who knows for sure which mod they came from, please let me know.

My installation is:

// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods

// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod

// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name [ : Version]

~BW_HERBS/SETUP-BW_HERBS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Herbs and Potions Add-in (BG1 / BG1Tutu / BGT) v1.0.1 by Baronius

~SONG_AND_SILENCE/SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Changes to trueclass bards and thieves, and unmodded game kits (required for other components): v3

~SONG_AND_SILENCE/SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #1 // Add new bardic store and thief items: v3

~SONG_AND_SILENCE/SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #2 // Install Acrobat bard kit: v3

~SONG_AND_SILENCE/SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #3 // Install Chorister bard kit: v3

~SONG_AND_SILENCE/SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #4 // Install Dirgesinger bard kit: v3

~SONG_AND_SILENCE/SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #5 // Install Gypsy bard kit: v3

~SONG_AND_SILENCE/SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #6 // Install Adventurer thief kit: v3

~SONG_AND_SILENCE/SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #7 // Install Burglar thief kit: v3

~SONG_AND_SILENCE/SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #8 // Install Soulknife thief kit: v3

~SONG_AND_SILENCE/SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #9 // Install Sharpshooter thief kit: v3

~SONG_AND_SILENCE/SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #10 // Install Shadowdancer thief kit: v3

~SETUP LOSTITEMSV1.TP2~ #0 #0 // Xan becomes a sorcerer

~SETUP LOSTITEMSV1.TP2~ #0 #1 // Viconia gets her 18 wisdom and portrait from BG2

~SETUP LOSTITEMSV1.TP2~ #0 #2 // Monk Tome

~SETUP LOSTITEMSV1.TP2~ #0 #3 // New old items (containers and mediocre weapons from BG2)

~SETUP LOSTITEMSV1.TP2~ #0 #4 // Bigger ammo packs

~SETUP LOSTITEMSV1.TP2~ #0 #5 // NPCs don't leave due to reputation

~SETUP LOSTITEMSV1.TP2~ #0 #6 // New portrait for Faldorn

~SETUP LOSTITEMSV1.TP2~ #0 #7 // New portrait for Xan

~SETUP LOSTITEMSV1.TP2~ #0 #8 // New portrait for Imoen

~BGQE/SETUP-BGQE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Baldur's Gate Mini-Quests and Encounters Mod: 4.1

~SETUP-TGC1E.TP2~ #1 #0 // The Grey Clan Episode One: In Candlelight, BG1TUTU edition v1.11 -> Normal edition

~SETUP-SIRINESCALL.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Lure of the Sirine's Call: v9

~SOA/SETUP-SOA.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Stone of Askavar: 1.4

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ice Island Level Two Restoration: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Mysterious Vial: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Additional Elminster Encounter: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #3 // Angelo Notices Shar-teel: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Finishable Kagain Caravan Quest: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #5 // Coran and the Wyverns: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #6 // Kivan and Tazok: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #7 // Branwen and Tranzig: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #8 // Safana the Flirt: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Appropriate Albert and Rufie Reward: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #10 // Place Entar Silvershield in His Home: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #11 // Scar and the Sashenstar's Daughter: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Quoningar, the Cleric: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #13 // Shilo Chen and the Ogre-Magi: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #14 // Edie, the Merchant League Applicant: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #15 // Flaming Fist Mercenary Reinforcements: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #16 // Creature Corrections: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Creature Restorations: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #18 // Creature Name Restorations: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #19 // Minor Dialogue Restorations: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #20 // Audio Restorations: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Store, Tavern and Inn Fixes and Restorations: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #22 // Item Corrections and Restorations: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #23 // Area Corrections and Restorations: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #24 // Permanent Corpses: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #25 // Elven Charm and Sleep Racial Resistance: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #26 // The Original Saga Music Playlist Corrections: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #27 // Sarevok's Diary Corrections: 7

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #0 // The BG1 NPC Project: Required Modifications: v17

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #1 // The BG1 NPC Project: Banters, Quests, and Interjections: v17

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #9 // The BG1 NPC Project: Ajantis Romance Core (teen content): v17

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #10 // The BG1 NPC Project: Branwen's Romance Core (teen content): v17

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #11 // The BG1 NPC Project: Coran's Romance Core (adult content): v17

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #12 // The BG1 NPC Project: Dynaheir's Romance Core (teen content): v17

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #13 // The BG1 NPC Project: Shar-Teel Relationship Core (adult content): v17

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #14 // The BG1 NPC Project: Xan's Romance Core (teen content): v17

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #15 // The BG1 NPC Project: Female Romance Challenges, Ajantis vs Xan vs Coran: v17

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #16 // The BG1 NPC Project: NPCs can be sent to wait in an inn: v17

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #18 // The BG1 NPC Project: Alora's Starting Location -> Alora Starts in Gullykin.: v17

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #20 // The BG1 NPC Project: Eldoth's Starting Location -> Eldoth Starts on the Coast Way.: v17

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #22 // The BG1 NPC Project: Quayle's Starting Location -> Quayle Starts at the Nashkel Carnival.: v17

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #24 // The BG1 NPC Project: Tiax's Starting Location -> Tiax Starts in Beregost.: v17

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #26 // The BG1 NPC Project: Make Shar-Teel Unkillable until In Party: v17

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #27 // The BG1 NPC Project: Bardic Reputation Adjustment: v17

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #29 // The BG1 NPC Project: Cloakwood areas availability in Chapter One -> Open four Cloakwood areas (everything but the Mines): v17

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #30 // The BG1 NPC Project: Sarevok's Diary Adjustments -> SixofSpades Extended Sarevok's Diary: v17

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #32 // The BG1 NPC Project: Check for TutuFix Walking Speeds: v17

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #200 // The BG1 NPC Project: Player-Initiated Dialogues: v17

~SETUP-FINCHNPCV3.TP2~ #0 #0 // Finch NPC for Tutu v3.0

~GAVIN/GAVIN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Gavin NPC for Tutu and BGT, 14April2008: v3.1

~GAVIN/GAVIN.TP2~ #0 #1 // Gavin: Romance (mature content): v3.1

~GAVIN/GAVIN.TP2~ #0 #2 // Gavin: Flirts (adult content): v3.1

~GAVIN/GAVIN.TP2~ #0 #3 // Gavin: Check for Tutu-Fix Walking Speeds: v3.1

~GAVIN/GAVIN.TP2~ #0 #6 // Gavin: Alternate Portraits -> Dawn skies, by Kaeloree: v3.1

~GAVIN/GAVIN.TP2~ #0 #10 // Gavin: Player Initiated Dialogue: v3.1

~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #0 // Proper dual-wielding implementation for Thieves and Bards: v4.11

~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #1 // Thief kit revisions: v4.11

~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #3 // Proper racial adjustments for thieving skills: v4.11

~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #4 // Bard kit revisions: v4.11

~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #7 // Additional equipment for Thieves and Bards: v4.11

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1070 // Improved Multi-Player Kick-out Dialogues: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1080 // Add Bags of Holding: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1090 // Exotic Item Pack: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1100 // Reveal City Maps When Entering Area: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1110 // Add Map Notes: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1120 // Stores Sell Higher Stacks of Items: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3000 // Higher HP on Level Up -> Maximum: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3010 // Maximum HP for NPCs (the bigg) -> For All Creatures in Game: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3030 // Easy Spell Learning -> 100% Learn Spells: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3040 // Make Bags of Holding Bottomless: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3080 // Unlimited Ammo Stacking: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3090 // Unlimited Gem and Jewelry Stacking: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3100 // Unlimited Potion Stacking: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3110 // Unlimited Scroll Stacking: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3121 // Happy Patch (Party NPCs do not fight or complain about reputation) -> NPCs can be angry about reputation but never leave (Salk): v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3125 // Neutral Characters Make Happy Comments at Mid-Range Reputation: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4031 // Consistent Stats: Edwin -> Use BG2 Values: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4041 // Consistent Stats: Jaheira -> Use BG2 Values: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4050 // Change Jaheira to Neutral Good: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4061 // Consistent Stats: Minsc -> Use BG2 Values: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4071 // Consistent Stats: Viconia -> Use BG2 Values: v7

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #10 // Detectable Spells: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #20 // Allow enemy AI to detect the party's magic items: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #30 // Correct various errors on race, class etc: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #3001 // Standardise spells: BG1 vs BG2 -> Introduce BG2 spell scrolls into BG1: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #3020 // Allow player to choose NPC proficiencies and skills: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #3030 // Allow NPC pairs to separate: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #3060 // Allow Yeslick to use axes: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #3070 // Move NPCs to more convenient locations: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #3090 // Prevent party members from dying irreversibly: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #4010 // Remove blur effect from displacer cloak: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #4020 // Stackable ankheg shells, winterwolf pelts and wyvern heads: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #4030 // Move Boo out of quick access and into Minsc's pack: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #4040 // Ensure Shar-Teel doesn't die in the original challenge: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #4050 // Ease-of-use player AI: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #5000 // Smarter general AI: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #5010 // Better calls for help: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #5020 // Potions for NPCs -> All of the potions dropped by slain enemies are recoverable: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #5032 // Smarter mages -> Mages use BG1 spells only; mages pre-buff: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #5042 // Smarter priests -> Priests use BG1 spells only; priests pre-buff: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #5050 // Smarter deployment: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #5060 // Harder giant and phase spiders: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #5070 // Smarter sirines and dryads: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #5080 // Slightly harder carrion crawlers: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #5090 // Smarter basilisks: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6000 // Improved doppelgangers: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6020 // Improved deployment for parties of assassins: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6030 // Dark Side-based kobold upgrade: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6040 // Relocated bounty hunters: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6050 // Improved Ulcaster: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6060 // Improved Balduran's Isle: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6070 // Improved Durlag's Tower: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6080 // Improved Demon Cultists: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6090 // Improved Cloakwood Druids: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6100 // Improved Bassilus: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6110 // Improved Drasus party: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6120 // Improved Red Wizards: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6130 // Improved Undercity party: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6140 // Improved minor encounters: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6150 // Tougher chapter-two end battle: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6160 // Tougher chapter-three end battle: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6170 // Tougher chapter-four end battle: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6180 // Tougher chapter-five end battle: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6190 // Tougher chapter-six end battle: v12

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6200 // Improved final battle: v12

~DRIZZTSAGA/DRIZZTSAGA.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Drizzt Saga for Tutu/BGT v1.0

~KONTWK/SETUP-KONTWK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Wizard Slayer Enhancements

~KONTWK/SETUP-KONTWK.TP2~ #0 #7 // Immunity HLA -> Necromancy

~KONTWK/SETUP-KONTWK.TP2~ #0 #9 // Restored Paladin Abilities

~KONTWK/SETUP-KONTWK.TP2~ #0 #10 // Rod of Refuge

~KONTWK/SETUP-KONTWK.TP2~ #0 #11 // Butter Knife of Balduran

~KONTWK/SETUP-KONTWK.TP2~ #0 #12 // Hackmaster +12

[Shaitan]

I've done the three quests (I know of) with Gavin including killing Mutamin.

[Grimwald]

I've done the three quests (I know of) with Gavin including killing Mutamin.

From the rogue rebalancing website, I have discovered that the medusas are NOT from the Gavin mod.

I'll have to read through all the readmes again and see if I can discover which mod they came from.

 

That's the problem with megamods.

[berelinde]

Are the basilisks in Mutamin's Garden, the area east of Beregost Temple?

 

I remember reading somewhere about potion of mirror eyes not protecting against the basilisk's gaze weapon on some BGT installations. If Darkveil uses the same effect code, that might be the issue right there. I don't know if this was fixed.

 

Unfortunately, that's also the problem of having a forum as a bug-report archive. Stuff gets buried and the real bugs and solutions get harder to find. Then, when the bug shows up again, we all remember a lot of "I think I read somewhere"s, and they're worse than useless, because they make people waste time on dead-ends. Someone googling this problem, for example, will get pointed to Gavin. Hopefully, I'll still be around when that happens, and hopefully, it won't be buried in an unrelated thread.

[aVENGER_(RR)]

I remember reading somewhere about potion of mirror eyes not protecting against the basilisk's gaze weapon on some BGT installations. If Darkveil uses the same effect code, that might be the issue right there. I don't know if this was fixed.

 

Darkveil's protection method against gaze attacks is twofold. First, it makes the wearer immune to all attacks which use the standard gaze projectile (GAZE.PRO) such as the Basilisk's petrifying gaze, for example. Second, it makes the wearer immune to all SPL files which are used as gaze attacks by creatures (i.e. an Umber Hulk's Confusion Gaze, a Tanar'ri Death Gaze...etc.).

 

However, if a mod introduces a creature which employs a custom SPL file for its gaze attack and if that spell does not use the standard gaze projectile, then Darkveil cannot protect the wearer against it. This could be the case with the aforementioned Medusas. So, if we could identify the mod which adds them, I might be able to rectify that.

[berelinde]

Ah. Gotcha.

 

Guess it means looking at a lot of tp2s. Yuck.

[Grimwald]

Ah. Gotcha.

 

Guess it means looking at a lot of tp2s. Yuck.

 

I don't know if this helps, but I have a file called F_MEDUSA.cre and one called F_medusa.BAF in the Drizzt Saga. I can do a search in my files for anything that contains medusa if that would help.

There is a file with the same name in my Tutu override folder.

 

Confirmed that it is the Drizzt saga that has brought in the medusas. Installing Rogue rebalancing after the Drizzt Saga will I think solve the problem.

I think however that it will be adressed in the future such that installation order won't be critical.

 

See the thread on the rogue rebalancing forum at SHS for further details here:

http://www.shsforums.net/index.php?showtop...mp;#entry451843

[Leomar]

I think however that it will be adressed in the future such that installation order won't be critical.

Only to let you know:

A correct installation order is everytime very important.

 

BTW, thanks for you great reports.

 

Greetings Leomar