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Scraps of ideas from researching (read that as distracting berelinde from her appointed tasks by poking at her and asking silly questions. Hey, i think I can get a job at Fox research, now...) Edwin/Edwina tranformation.

 

Adding a banter to Edwin's post-transformation banter file,

 

 

/* Fun with Edwin as a Woman */

 

Probably will never play, but heck - why not. This is long form built out of Edwin's BEDWINWO.DLG file, acient long-form EXTERN. This could be rebuilt more efficiently as a CHAIN, or just tidied up, but the code part that is most fun about it is the use of SAY #sringnumber I saw used in JCompton's D'Arnise alia Romance, where preexisting game string references can be swapped in:

 

APPEND ~BEDWINWO~

IF ~InParty("C-ARAN") See("C-ARAN") !StateCheck("C-ARAN",CD_STATE_NOTVALID) Global("c-arEdwinW","LOCALS",0)~ THEN BEGIN c-edwiniswoman
 SAY #8556 /* ~(My condition draws fools like flies to honey).  Silence, you idiot!  You've a death wish that is larger than your swollen head.~ [EDWINW39]  */
 IF ~~ THEN DO ~SetGlobal("c-arEdwinW","LOCALS",1)~ EXTERN ~C-ARANB~ woman1
END

END

APPEND ~C-ARANB~

IF ~~ woman1
 SAY ~[ARAN] Hey, now, I weren't saying naught, now, eh? I was just...~
 IF ~~ THEN EXTERN ~BEDWINWO~ woman2
END

END

APPEND ~BEDWINWO~

IF ~~ woman2
 SAY ~[EDWIN] Your eyes were practically shouting vile depravity at my feminine form.~
 IF ~~ THEN EXTERN ~C-ARANB~ woman3
END

END

APPEND ~C-ARANB~

IF ~~ woman3
 SAY ~[ARAN] Grumbar's Formidable Fists, laddie... err.. m'Lady, I weren't doin' no such thing. It were just that you haven't got used to th' right manner o' walkin in that there body, eh?~
 IF ~~ THEN EXTERN ~BEDWINWO~ woman4
END

END


APPEND ~BEDWINWO~

IF ~~ woman4
 SAY #7276  /* ~And exactly WHAT is wrong with my 'manner?'~ [EDWINW49] */
 IF ~~ THEN EXTERN ~C-ARANB~ woman5
END

END

APPEND ~C-ARANB~

IF ~~ woman5
 SAY ~[ARAN] Well, for one thing, if you keep slammin' down your heels when you walk like that, you are goin' to jounce those feminine attributes right out o' that there robe.~
 IF ~~ THEN EXTERN ~BEDWINWO~ woman6
END

END

APPEND ~BEDWINWO~

IF ~~ woman6
 SAY #7066  /* ~(I will kill ALL of them.  Slowly.  With...with HOT...pokey things and...and coals and...and prods.  Yessssss, prods.  Many, many prods.)~ */
 IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END

END

 

So, dv doesn't change, still = "edwin", but the banter file and script in play does. Next step; figure out what consititues a good check for "Edwina" being in play rather than "edwin", so that a banter or talk fits the feminine form. Gender() I think is not the way to go, as my bet is that if they don't change the DV, they must be shell-scripting somehow, so time to look through the decompiled .bcs for clues...

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Nope, I was wrong - he does get a full swap, not juts of soundset, but of everything but the DV. In

 

In EDWIN.BAF

IF
Gender(Myself,FEMALE)
Global("TurnedFemale","LOCALS",0)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61302,MORALE) //   I'll not die like this!  Not like this!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61303,HAPPY) //   This is all well and good but could we get back to fixing my little problem now?
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61304,UNHAPPY_ANNOYED) //   You are doing nothing for my morale, you know.  Wasteful behavior and leaving me like this.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61305,UNHAPPY_SERIOUS) //   Yes, yes, you are all a bunch of goodie two-shoes, and yet I am left like this!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61306,UNHAPPY_BREAKING_POINT) //   I can see I am going to get no help from the likes of you.  I shall find my own *cure*.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61307,LEADER) //   Do not patronize me, I am in no shape to lead.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61308,TIRED) //   I tire of walking, I tire of talking, and I tire of the laughable body.  I wish to rest now.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61309,BORED) //   Every moment idle is another moment I brood in this dispicable form.  Let's get moving!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61310,BATTLE_CRY1) //   Your worthless lives end here!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61311,BATTLE_CRY2) //   A death for every second I am in this form!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61312,BATTLE_CRY3) //   I feel your stares!  Die!  Die!!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61313,DAMAGE) // 
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61314,DYING) // 
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61315,HURT) //   If I must wear this form the least you could do is keep it in good health!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61316,AREA_FOREST) //   This place is less constricting than the city, though I no more wish the company of nature than people.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61317,AREA_CITY) //   I feel the stares of each and every person here.  They mock me with their eyes.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61318,AREA_DUNGEON) //   Another dank hole with which to improve my mood.  Joy.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61319,AREA_DAY) //   I would see as few days in this form as possible.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61321,AREA_NIGHT) //   I would rather spend my nights dreaming of being normal again.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61322,SELECT_COMMON1) //   Leave me be.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61323,SELECT_COMMON2) //   What is it now?!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61324,SELECT_COMMON3) //   I will tolerate only so much.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,-1,SELECT_COMMON4) // No such index
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,-1,SELECT_COMMON5) // No such index
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,-1,SELECT_COMMON6) // No such index
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61325,SELECT_ACTION1) //   If I must.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61326,SELECT_ACTION2) //   Oh, labor will help.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61327,SELECT_ACTION3) //   A waste of my talents.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61328,SELECT_ACTION4) //   Stop looking at me.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61329,SELECT_ACTION5) //   Very well.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61330,SELECT_ACTION6) //   If I must live like this your life shall be as much a hell as mine.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,-1,SELECT_ACTION7) // No such index
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,-1,SELECT_RARE1) // No such index
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,-1,SELECT_RARE2) // No such index
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61331,CRITICAL_HIT) //   Even hand to hand I am dangerous.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61332,CRITICAL_MISS) //   My talents are wasted on physical blows!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61333,TARGET_IMMUNE) //   My spells would serve better, this weapon is useless.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61334,INVENTORY_FULL) //   I'll be no packhorse!  Pick up your garbage where I dropped it!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61335,PICKED_POCKET) //   I have succeeded, but I despise being reduced to this.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61336,EXISTANCE1) //   I am hidden, though I still see this ridiculous form myself.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61337,EXISTANCE2) //   Do the outrages never end?  My spell has failed!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,61338,EXISTANCE3) //   I have set your trap, but my wrath prefers direct combat.
	SetGlobal("TurnedFemale","LOCALS",1)
END

IF
Gender(Myself,MALE)
Global("TurnedFemale","LOCALS",1)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,3966,MORALE) //  I'll not die to incompetence!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,3968,HAPPY) //  I had not thought this group capable of pleasing me, but I am impressed.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,3969,UNHAPPY_ANNOYED) //  Could my opinion of this group drop ANY lower? Evidently so.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,3970,UNHAPPY_SERIOUS) //   I warn you, I cannot abide this charity. It is not to my tastes at all.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,3971,UNHAPPY_BREAKING_POINT) //  No, I do not feel this is working out.You waste opportunity after opportunity. I will stand no more.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,3972,LEADER) //  It is about time you monkeys realized who should be leader.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,3973,TIRED) //  I require rest. I demand we stop.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,3974,BORED) //  Inactive outward, inactive inward. Why do I suffer these fools?
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,3967,BATTLE_CRY1) //  Your worthless lives end here!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30694,BATTLE_CRY2) //  Cry for your lives, they are over!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30706,BATTLE_CRY3) //  You can do nothing but die!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,5350,DAMAGE) //  
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,5351,DYING) //  
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,3975,HURT) //  I could use some help here, fools.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,5345,AREA_FOREST) //  I find the 'great outdoors' chaotic and dirty It needs a shaping will to slap the beasts into proper order. 
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,5346,AREA_CITY) //  The city changes, but the fools within are always the same. 
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,5347,AREA_DUNGEON) //  Could we not have hired some poor fools to do this for us? This is no place for a man of my stature.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,5348,AREA_DAY) //  Another day and more aimless stumbling about. 
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,5349,AREA_NIGHT) //  Intelligent peoples do not wander about looking for trouble in the evening hours. 
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,3976,SELECT_COMMON1) //  Yes?
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,3977,SELECT_COMMON2) //  What is it now!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,3978,SELECT_COMMON3) //  Go bother someone else.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30709,SELECT_COMMON4) //  I'm busy.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30710,SELECT_COMMON5) //  Have you nothing else to do but bother me?
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30711,SELECT_COMMON6) //  Yes master, what should I fetch now?
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30712,SELECT_ACTION1) //  Oh all right!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30713,SELECT_ACTION2) //  Yes, yes, I see.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30714,SELECT_ACTION3) //  One day...one day...
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30716,SELECT_ACTION4) //  Very well.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30717,SELECT_ACTION5) //  Edwin do this, Edwin do that. Somebody get this jerk a banana.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30718,SELECT_ACTION6) //  Fear me!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30719,SELECT_ACTION7) //  Bah, useless weapon!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30716,SELECT_RARE1) //  Very well.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30717,SELECT_RARE2) //  Edwin do this, Edwin do that. Somebody get this jerk a banana.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30718,CRITICAL_HIT) //  Fear me!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30719,CRITICAL_MISS) //  Bah, useless weapon!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30720,TARGET_IMMUNE) //  This weapon is worthless.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30721,INVENTORY_FULL) //  I will carry no more. Find your trinket upon the ground.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30722,PICKED_POCKET) //  The fool saw nothing. Such simple larceny.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30723,EXISTANCE1) //  I am concealed, though I see no need.
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30724,EXISTANCE2) //  My spell disrupted? Argh!!
	SetPlayerSound(Myself,30725,EXISTANCE3) //  I prefer to attack more directly, but a trap will do for now.
	SetGlobal("TurnedFemale","LOCALS",0)
END

 

Which means BioWare figured a good check was to look for a combination of Global("TurnedFemale","LOCALS",{0,1}) as a toggle, combined with a gender check. Pity it is a LOCALS, so that one can't be freferenced, but it makes it easy for us - we can look at Edwin with a Gender("edwin",FEMALE) and everything can be based on that.

 

confirmation,

In EDWINJ.D

IF WEIGHT #7 ~Gender(Myself,FEMALE)
Global("AfterChange","LOCALS",1)~ THEN BEGIN 15 // from:
 SAY ~This is bad.~ [EDWINW01] /* #6921 */
 IF ~~ THEN DO ~SetGlobal("AfterChange","LOCALS",2)
SetGlobalTimer("DegardanSpawn","GLOBAL",86400)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61302,1)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61303,2)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61304,3)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61305,4)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61306,5)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61307,6)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61308,7)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61309,8)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61310,9)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61311,10)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61312,11)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61313,18)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61314,19)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61315,20)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61316,21)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61317,22)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61318,23)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61319,24)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61321,25)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61322,26)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61323,27)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61324,28)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,-1,29)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,-1,30)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,-1,31)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61325,32)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61326,33)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61327,34)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61328,35)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61329,36)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61330,37)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,-1,38)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,-1,63)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,-1,64)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61331,65)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61332,66)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61333,67)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61334,68)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61335,69)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61336,70)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61337,71)
SetPlayerSound(Myself,61338,72)~ EXIT
END

 

This is when using LOCALS gets tougher to manage - cross-cre/bcs/dlg stuff is much easier when you have a GLOBAL to play with.

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You *can* do a check for Edwin's local variables, you just need to set a global in Edwin's script. Jastey and I do it so we can tell which lovetalk Anomen is on.

 

You would put this in Edwin's script(s)

 

IF 
Global("TurnedFemale","LOCALS",1) 
Global("c-EdwinFemale","GLOBAL",0) 
THEN 
RESPONSE #100
	SetGlobal("c-EdwinFemale","GLOBAL",1) 
END 

IF 
Global("c-EdwinFemale","GLOBAL",1) 
Global("TurnedFemale","LOCALS",0) 
THEN 
RESPONSE #100 
	SetGlobal("c-EdwinFemale","GLOBAL",2)
END

After that, you've got a convenient toggle for checking Edwin's gender.

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Ah, I remember, now - cool :) This is the same idea as setting an I_C_T with a global to see if an event has happened, though if I remember correctly you found out that the referencing script needs a "I was not in the party when it happened" backup in .bcs, closing something -

 

If this were something that was going to be referenced a good deal, I would definitely do that. Since this is a once-in-a-game-and-under-some-pretty-tight-conditions, I had better keep the simplest script loadout possible, and forget about trying to foil the Player who decides to put a Girdle of Gender Bending on Edwin while he is a female...

 

heh!

 

so

 

Gender("edwin",FEMALE) plus the regular InParty/InMyArea/CD_S_NV should be enough for the CHAIN reference in the P&T Ideas thread, and any other place I want to sprinkle these.

 

BEDWINWO is going to get called via Interact() from Edwin, so an Interact("c-aran") should get this one riolling, though it needs a timer to make sure parties with Aerie and Aran along with Edwin don't get a sack-up.

 

On the string reference as SAY, here is the lowdown -

The string reference idea, as found in D'Arnise:

 

 

Searching for a simpler way of tying back into existing dialog, I came across this construction in JCompton's D'Arnise Romance:

 

EXTEND_BOTTOM BAERIE 201
IF ~InParty("Nalia") InMyArea("Nalia") !StateCheck("Nalia",CD_STATE_NOTVALID) Global("PGNaliaRomanceActive","GLOBAL",1)~ THEN EXTERN NALIAJ aer3
END

CHAIN NALIAJ aer3
~Now, really, Aerie, that is quite enough. These ploys for sympathy are wholly unbecoming and entirely unnecessary. I don't think you realize just how demeaning this sort of thing is, or how embarrassing it is for the rest of us!~
== BAERIE ~Ploys for sympathy? How can you say such a thing? I'm not the one who... who picked him up in a seedy bar, while crying for help! And who never misses an opportunity to remind him of everything she lost in her palace!~
== NALIAJ ~I was *not* crying! And that is hardly the same thing! Many lives were at stake then! You, Aerie... this is simple manipulation, and it's an insult to <CHARNAME>, asking him to give your life some meaning lest you throw it away.~
== NALIAJ ~If you can't use your abilities to help <CHARNAME> and help others because you can't see past the scars on... of your past, then that's your own concern.~
== BAERIE ~I don't have to listen to this! I don't! You're just as bad as anybody, Nalia, and it's arguments like this that make this awful earthbound life so terrible!~
== BAERIE ~I can't live like this anymore! I can't!~
END
++ #56288 /* ~Life down here isn't so wretched, Aerie.~ */ EXTERN BAERIE 202
++ #56289 /* ~Well, you're going to have to accept it, Aerie. You're going to have to find the strength to face up to it.~ */ EXTERN BAERIE 203
++ #56290 /* ~Don't say that...we'll find some way to restore your wings, I promise!~ */ EXTERN BAERIE 206
++ #56291 /* ~If you continue to act so weak and maudlin, then I agree...you'll never survive.~ */ DO ~SetGlobal("AerieRomanceActive","GLOBAL",3)~ EXTERN BAERIE 210

 

 

The really interesting part is this leveraging of existing static game resources:

END
++ #56288 /* ~Life down here isn't so wretched, Aerie.~ */ EXTERN BAERIE 202
++ #56289 /* ~Well, you're going to have to accept it, Aerie. You're going to have to find the strength to face up to it.~ */ EXTERN BAERIE 203
++ #56290 /* ~Don't say that...we'll find some way to restore your wings, I promise!~ */ EXTERN BAERIE 206
++ #56291 /* ~If you continue to act so weak and maudlin, then I agree...you'll never survive.~ */ DO ~SetGlobal("AerieRomanceActive","GLOBAL",3)~ EXTERN BAERIE 210

 

where instead of using replication of the string or COPY_TRANS, the original string is called. This works on BGII (SoA or ToB) because the foundation for BGT and other mods uses a dialog.tlk that remains (relatively) untouched.

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