A reliable way to determine that there's no combat going?

[qwerty12345]

I want to check if there's no combat going (or at least, no enemies are seen). It's in baldur.bcs, so there's no active creature. I used CombatCounterLT(1), and it seemed to work fine… except that in some (rare) areas it doesn't. I tried various others:

OR(5)
 CombatCounterLT(1)
 CombatCounter(0)
 !CombatCounterGT(0)
 !ActuallyInCombat()
 !OnScreen([EVILCUTOFF])

It just fails to work properly. Example area is Trademeet crypt. Is that a known bug? Is there any other trigger overlooked by me that could be used?

 

I suppose I could work around with some invisible creatures, etc, but I'd rather not.

[qwerty12345]

err.. actually, there's no OR() in my script, they're all ANDed.

[Jarno Mikkola]

It just fails to work properly. Example area is Trademeet crypt.

Erhm, how do you script that ? Cause some areas don't have area scripts assigned in vanilla and so forth...

[qwerty12345]

baldur.bcs

[Ardanis]

Wild guess - OnScreen() only work with specific objects, e.g. deathvars or players.

[qwerty12345]

so is there any other way?

[Kulyok]

Maybe you could change your task? Make it happen in certain areas only, tie to an NPC, that sort of thing?

[jastey]

!Exists([EVILCUTOFF]) is the only area-valid check I could think off.

 

But if CombatCounter(0) doesn't work in some rare areas, it seems like an engine quirk to me. Or is it always the same areas? Then you could work in those areas with helping invisible creature, who could use !Detect([EVILCUTOFF]) or something like that.

[qwerty12345]

Well, it's the same areas - for me. I wonder if someone could confirm or confirm not.

I don't have a list (how would I get it?), but I remember 2 instances.

[jastey]

In the area, you could click "x", then the area code is shown in the textbox (cheats have to be enabled).

[Jarno Mikkola]

In the area, you could click "x", then the area code is shown in the textbox (cheats have to be enabled).

Actually, no they don't... the Ctrl + X gives additional info but that's besides the point you are making, just pushing the x gives the area info(example "ar0602" ) and mouse pointer coordinates.

[jastey]

Jarno: your point? I said pressing the x gives the area name = area code which is what is needed here.

[qwerty12345]

I know how to get area code... I can't be going through every area in game to check the behavior.

[Lu_]

@ qwerty

Have you even tried using CombatCounter(0), without the rest? I think I once read something on the subject, and it was mentioned that using CombatCounterLT(1) or !CombatCounterGT(0) instead should be avoided (though I am not 100% sure, the discussion took place kinda 1,000 years ago)

As for !ActuallyInCombat()

1) I doubt that it makes any sense outside creature scripts

2) The trigger is quite useless anyway; other than PC's AI scripts, I can't think of any situation where it can be helpful (IIRC, Bioware never used it)

[jastey]

I know how to get area code... I can't be going through every area in game to check the behavior.

You said above the CombatCounter(0) failure is in only a few and always the same (few) areas, so my suggestion was to find a special solution for these areas. Now you say you don't know what the behavior for most of the areas is. Can't help you then, as it seems.