Big world project not supported on windows 10?

[mesogirippa]

Hi. I was trying to insteall big world project for both of the enhanced versions on my windows 10 pc,but it says it isn't supported.. I also tried running it in compability mode for win7 and xp perspectively,but still nothing. I have had disabled my firewall/antivirus/everything so it can't be that.Any idea,you guys?

[Jarno Mikkola]

Upgrade to use the BWS, not the age-old cripple thing that was it's ancestor.

[mesogirippa]

@Jarno, Thats what I am doing.I am using the Big world setup ;_;

[Roxanne]

Hi. I was trying to insteall big world project for both of the enhanced versions on my windows 10 pc,but it says it isn't supported.. I also tried running it in compability mode for win7 and xp perspectively,but still nothing. I have had disabled my firewall/antivirus/everything so it can't be that.Any idea,you guys?

BWS works with windows 10 and the EE. I am using it all the time (even 64-bit version) - if you have the new EE version make sure you have/need this https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/50441/modmerge-merge-your-steam-gog-zip-based-dlc-into-something-weidu-nearinfinity-dltcep-can-use/p1 before you start installing mods.

[AL|EN]

Are you talking about this:

if yes, you know where to send complains ...

[subtledoctor]

Why not also complain to GOG and Steam?

 

If you get bruised apples, do you blame the orchard that grew them, or the grocery store that sucked them wrong? Even if you do blame the orchard, the retailer who took your money is where you complain to...

 

Why is BWS engaging in a campaign to inflame people against Beamdog? Why not just install ModMerge or k4thos' tool at the beginning of the install process - the way it automatically applies the FixPack, or the way it automatically buffs files? Isn't that kind of thing the whole reason BWS exists?

[Jarno Mikkola]

Why not just install ModMerge or k4thos' tool at the beginning of the install process

I see why, cause it's not as simple as run a program that does everything easy. If you notice the Steam and GoG versions had different ways to deal with it at the start. Yes. The modmerger got updated to v1.1 so now they should work the same way for both, but the Beamdog version never had this problem, and still doesn't. Do we install it 5483 different ways or RECOMMEND PEOPLE TO complain and get it sorted at their end so there's no thousand people to complain to us that the problem is there ?!?

[lynx]

Considering how poor QA they have, I'm surprised anyone is surprised.

 

And it's pretty odd that the community had to come up with a solution itself. Wasting a portion of a weekend to reimplement the key file reader-writer in go was deemed more practical than to actually fix the problem with the distributors!?

[AL|EN]

subtledoctor, because I know how Steam and GoG works, I'm 100% sure that it's Beamdog fault/decision to ignore this problem. I could do it, anyone with descend programming/infrastructure skills could do it so they should do it, period. This community deserves solution, not excuses. That's the difference between for eg Blizzard and them. This issue is a "cross-the-line" in terms "do we care about community or do we screw them". BWS is not engaging any camping: it's just information for the people and their customers that using Steam/GoG Editions of the game is not supported because mods can't be properly installed. It's up to them to decide what to do next. Without such message, people would install mods using those version and BWS would be the first thing which they would blame. And this message will avoid this.

 

ModMerge tool is a community solution and it fix the problem by creating another one - after using ModMerge we have yet another release of the game to deal with it. And because experience from the past, it is really bad situation. I have idea for another "unpackSoD" tool but I have no time to fix Beamdog incompetence.

[Jarno Mikkola]

There's sides to this that are purely financial. And those can't be best known for reasons that are kinda obvious.

[subtledoctor]

1) Do you seriously think Beamdog set out to screw over the community? I'm talking about Camdawg, Avenger, Ardanis, etc. - they are Beamdog. And they are also the community. So your conspiracy theory doesn't make much sense.

 

2) Regardless whether your conspiracy theory makes sense, it's inappropriate - uncool, at the very least - to use BWS as a weapon against Beamdog rather than as a tool to help players. Isn't helping players your ultimate goal? If not, then what are you even doing?

 

3) This is BS:

BWS is not engaging any camping: it's just information for the people and their customers that using Steam/GoG Editions of the game is not supported because mods can't be properly installed. It's up to them to decide what to do next.

"Information?" What "information" is in the button? Is there a link to the modmerge page or to the other tool for this? Is there any information that players can *use* there? Because, I don't see anything helpful for players, I just see an angry screed.

 

To be clear: I'm not saying you should like Beamdog. I'm just saying you should show a little more consideration for players, who are blameless here.

[lynx]

Why does it have to be a conspiracy theory and not just poor management, bad luck, oversight, external pressure etc.? The larger the team, the more specialisation is there and everyone has less overview. So expecting our modding paragons to know and ok everything is an absurd notion.

 

The fact that their PR is bad at crisis communication only exacerbates the matter.

[Jarno Mikkola]

"Information?" What "information" is in the button? Is there a link to the modmerge page or to the other tool for this?

Well, I am not saying you are wrong entirely, but ... can you say the Beamdog has handled the matter in official capacity the best way they can ? Can you excuse them from people not knowing that they need to install a mod to mod the game ... by having the needed information in the downloads of their games readily available, and is there a chance the one user made mod is the best and only mod needed ?

And does it work on all the languages. The answer to the very last question is a resounding: Nope.

 

And I would argue that the above note was a way to note to people that the feature, aka moding a v2.0 SoD game had no good external solution on the day the note was added to the BWS. And there still isn't really. The EET is likely have to deal with this and we'll see what K4thos comes up with, and we'll see if it can make everything OK. Not that it's K4thos job.

[mesogirippa]

Guys,guys! I don't think I even encountered this "mod support broken" error you are referring to. What I am getting is THIS

(And I am using BigWorldSetup-bigworldsetup-e5455792c220 )

I would be extremely grateful,if somebody could help me out ;_; Its the strangest thing.I never had problems on my laptop,but I was never able to install BWP on my computer..in more than 2 years

 

https://i.imgur.com/b7aSJC9.png

[subtledoctor]

Again: how Beamdog handled the update is irrelevant. I haven't actually said I disagree with ALIENquake. I'm just criticizing the content of the BWS error notification.

 

Some poor schlub just wants to install some mods and play, but the BWS puts a big hand to the face and says NO. And it doesn't even say something like "go read this forum thread here ([ url ]) and once you've installed modmerge, Combe and you can use BWS." It doesn't even point players in a direction where they can help

themselves.

 

That's a pretty crappy way to treat those players.