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IR Revised V1.2.5 (2019 April 5th)

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​Hmm. I guess anything using the greater than or less than symbol will have to be replaced, then. Thanks for letting me know.

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​Sorry! Because I only have semi-permission to distribute it (and only the files that I changed - not the entirety of IR), and because it requires a changed install order in regards to 1pp, I'm not really sure that it can be made to work with the BWS in the normal sense. Unfortunately, I can only recommend my instructions in the original post for installing it with the BWS as of this time.

​In other news, a new version with a few bug fixes and minor item cost changes (mostly relating to price oddities of some the prices of the Joluv special items) will probably be coming out within the next couple of weeks. Nothing major, but I am working on it.

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In other news, a new version with a few bug fixes and minor item cost changes (mostly relating to price oddities of some the prices of the Joluv special items) will probably be coming out within the next couple of weeks. Nothing major, but I am working on it.

Could you also fix the issue that some descriptions state "Damage: 2D4" (note the CAPITAL D) instead of "Damage: 2d4" (note the lower case d)?

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There is another bug: ordinary items (no enchantment) should not have an identified description -> StringRef should be set to "-1"

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Permission? It's another mod altogether based on the core of a prior mod. Who would use current item revision? No one.

Thanks for help though.

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In other news, a new version with a few bug fixes and minor item cost changes (mostly relating to price oddities of some the prices of the Joluv special items) will probably be coming out within the next couple of weeks. Nothing major, but I am working on it.

Could you also fix the issue that some descriptions state "Damage: 2D4" (note the CAPITAL D) instead of "Damage: 2d4" (note the lower case d)?

 

 

All items use the capital D for dice rolls. It was the style in vanilla, and I always thought it looked better than the lowercase style (and as a sort of semi-abbreviation, it makes sense that it's uppercase). As for the ordinary items having descriptions, I think that's inherited from vanilla IR. Is there any reason to change it?

​@Arthas: I mean, I've put a lot of work into it, but Demi et. al. have put much more into the mod than I have. IRR is more a giant collection of fixes, tweaks, and small additions - probably around 95-96% of the mod is still work that the original creators, not I, did. Anyways, it's not really my decision...and also, there are people (likely the majority, in fact!) that are sticking by normal IR for various reasons. However, I am happy you feel that way nonetheless!

 

For those playing on BG(2):EE, please let me know if any usabilities are wrong for any of the new classes/kits. I think there's a new Blackguard paladin kit or something, right? They probably shouldn't be able to use items that are usable by other paladins, and I think they probably currently can, so that should be fixed.

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I think there's a new Blackguard paladin kit or something, right? They probably shouldn't be able to use items that are usable by other paladins, and I think they probably currently can, so that should be fixed.

If a paladin is able to use an evil items, then why can't the blackguard use it ? Hi hihihii, the suggestion here is that as the item needs to be, not only "lawful good" to be able to be used by the blackguard, then any paladin should be able to be using it, if they are not "lawful good". As there are kits that have that feature. And yeah, the LG restriction removes the Carsomyr from from evil paladins.

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Yeah, I was kind of thinking of that, too. But I also thought of items like the Ravager that are specifically *not* usable by paladins, that probably should be usable by Blackguards, and those should be fixed as well...and you can't necessarily use the alignment restrictions to do that, because it would start restricting other classes (and I personally think at the very least chaotic good characters should be able to use virtually any items except the most absurdly evil/cruel like Human Flesh, with the justification being that they're trying to use it for good).

​Now that I think of it, how are anti-paladins' restrictions handled? Are they just considered a Paladin? Can they continue to use Carsomyr, for example?

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​As for the ordinary items having descriptions, I think that's inherited from vanilla IR. Is there any reason to change it?

Well, the "problem" is that the identified description and the general description of those items use two different strings -> either the 2 descriptions use the same string or the identified description should be removed. What do you think? Edited by Luke

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Well, the "problem" is that the identified description and the general description of those items are two different strings -> either the 2 descriptions use the same string or the identified description should be removed. What do you think?

Erhm, and so you can't tell that a golden axe is any different from a regular, as the string as that comes from the original file, while not having even looked at the thing(being blind and all that, for example).

There is no generic description for a generic item that's not entirely generic, but not enought magical to require a the secred knowledge that only a tale of the horgomorgslight killer tells to the barn bard that knows all the tales of the town.

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@Jarno Mikkola In EE games ordinary weapons (battle axe, long sword, scimitar and so forth) don't have an identified description (it makes perfect sense). Why should this mod use two different strings if the two descriptions are identical?

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@Jarno Mikkola In EE games ordinary weapons (battle axe, long sword, scimitar and so forth) don't have an identified description (it makes perfect sense). Why should this mod use two different strings if the two descriptions are identical?

Had you actually used a weidu to install mods, you would know the reason. The strings that are identical, are not re-written, but get re-allocated to the equal string in game. This also goes so far that weidu doesn't remove mods strings during the mods uninstall(s). You'll notice this using Near Infinity or other such tools. There are no 1000's strings saying the file unidentified descritions. Edited by Jarno Mikkola

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I often have trouble understanding what you're saying, Jarno, but I think you and Luke are talking about two separate issues. What Luke is taking issue with is unmagical items, such as HALB01 or SW1H01, having both their identified and unidentified names and descriptions filled with the same referenced strings. e.g., my HALB01 has 31123 for both name fields, and 91435 for both description fields. In vanilla, however, unmagical items (or items that don't need to be identified) usually have only the unidentified fields filled, not the identified. I don't think it makes any difference, but I'd have to make sure (perhaps the description update macro needs both of them filled? I am not certain) before changing something like that. I'll put it on my to-do list backburner.

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