[help needed] IWD random encounter areas

[K4thos]

thank you very much, I've added the file and preview to the first post.

edit: just noticed your updated image, I will upload the new version right away.

Edited November 5, 2019 by K4thos

[Guest Fluke565]

Ah ok, will make sure I do those in sand then. Luckily because they're bmps, can just do a colour find a replace in GIMP if we need switch them back to snow at a later date. Probably not going to work... but I don't suppose we could just copy wal_01 from iwdee to bg2ee? Obviously that would mean deep water changing to snow sounds, but is deep really ever used?

The areas shouldn't take long, Im just starting with a basic workable area file for each. Then if I have time I might be able to help more. I tend to get a little side tracked with modding, the other day I was working on an iwd quest mod, then randomly decided to put an AoE horse into the game..oh dear heh.

Im really excited for iwd in eet - Im going to tweak my mod, so it'll work in iwd-in eet, so we could have a mod ready soon after your big launch.

[Guest Fluke13]

This is Fluke565 - used the wrong number before. If you ever need to reach me urgently, just message Fluke13 on the beamdog forums.

So the first step of the area making is done - just basic working areas, no night wed yet.

Im going to get these area tidied up over the next week or so and test them on EET game file, then share with swit.

If anyone is planning to create encounters on these maps, let me know  - if we don't get many takers, I can have a go at those more slowly.

I have a few ideas, but would welcome a brain storming of possible encounters (no idea is a bad idea).

[K4thos]

Thanks for your work, Fluke565.

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Ah ok, will make sure I do those in sand then. Luckily because they're bmps, can just do a colour find a replace in GIMP if we need switch them back to snow at a later date. Probably not going to work... but I don't suppose we could just copy wal_01 from iwdee to bg2ee? Obviously that would mean deep water changing to snow sounds, but is deep really ever used?

If I remember correctly "deep water" SR color is used in some BG1 maps near water, so can't be replaced without regressions. Yellow color is not used in any BG1 and BG2 areas, which makes potentially fixing it on engine level safe. This could be likely fixed via EEex but on the other hand "sand" sounds are acceptable imo, so not sure if it's worth bothering Bubb with it.

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If anyone is planning to create encounters on these maps, let me know  - if we don't get many takers, I can have a go at those more slowly.

I have a few ideas, but would welcome a brain storming of possible encounters (no idea is a bad idea).

currently you're the only person interested in designing actual encounters. If anyone would like to help with it please share your ideas/thoughts in this topic.

Edited November 18, 2019 by K4thos

[Isewein]

This looks fun. Are you planning to make those available for basic IWD EE as well? I respect the concept of IWD in EET but feel that it just does not really fit in naturally story-wise and so prefer to keep my games separate, but IWD could certainly use a few random encounters.

[K4thos]

1 hour ago, Isewein said:

This looks fun. Are you planning to make those available for basic IWD EE as well? I respect the concept of IWD in EET but feel that it just does not really fit in naturally story-wise and so prefer to keep my games separate, but IWD could certainly use a few random encounters.

whole mod is meant to be installable also on top of IWD:EE down the line, so yes (IWD:EE platform has less priority for now though). Also even though I'm not planning to extract/maintain different parts of the mod as separate mods/components, I'm not against others doing so (if people contributing content for particular feature also don't mind)

edit: from the get-go you will be also able to play IWD1/HoW campaigns separately from the BG story via EET "Select Campaign" feature (which works like IWD:EE base game but with additional features that this mod introduces like random encounters, voiced greetings, optional IWD2 rules, etc.)

Edited November 19, 2019 by K4thos

[bob_veng]

can random encounters between IWD1 areas spawn creatures only present in BG1&2EE - since an IWDEE-based IWD-in-EET won't include many BG1&2EE creatures. 

also how should random encounters when travelling between BG areas and IWD areas be handled? can you ensure that from whichever BG location you travel to any IWD location, you can have a random encounter? Also, what should the habitat be in those, should it always be the snow areas, or a mix of existing areas and new ones?

Is this the kind of information you'd need to create a random encounter:

IWD1 encounter #1, any chapter
area: gorionar 5
Kuldahar <> Vale of Shadows (AR2100 AR3000)
WOLF.CRE - Wolf x10

Edited November 19, 2019 by bob_veng

[K4thos]

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can random encounters between IWD1 areas spawn creatures only present in BG1&2EE - since an IWDEE-based IWD-in-EET won't include many BG1&2EE creatures. 

there is no such limitation. All CRE files from vanilla games used in encounters will be copied to unique files. You can design encounters using any CRE files from BG:EE, BG2:EE, IWD:EE, IWD2. Or you can create new CRE files from scratch.

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also how should random encounters when travelling between BG areas and IWD areas be handled? can you ensure that from whichever BG location you travel to any IWD location, you can have a random encounter?

yes. It's possible to have random encounter chance, force random encounter, encounter to take place in particular coordinates of the worldmap etc. I can implement it the way a person responsible for designing random encounters envisions it

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Also, what should the habitat be in those, should it always be the snow areas, or a mix of existing areas and new ones?

Between IWD1/HoW/IWD2 areas only snow areas since that's what we got and it fits the surroundings.

When it comes to random encounter that can happen when you travel between BG <-> Icewind Dale my idea is to give a small chance for an encounter (for example Pirates attack, maybe some monsters like Harpies, Kuo-Toa etc) to happen somewhere on the sea between those locations – that’s why I’ve requested a boat image.

You first travel to Icewind Dale via boat (see IWD2 intro for a story framing) and once there you can use worldmap to travel back to BG areas (at least in portions of the story that it makes sense). So even though we're not showing how the travel back and forth looks like the player knows that it's done by the sea each time thanks to the random encounter that may happen.

So with this in mind using BG1/BG2 random encounter areas art don't seem like something necessary although I’m not strictly against it if that’s what encounter designer wants to implement.

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Is this the kind of information you'd need to create a random encounter:

IWD1 encounter #1, any chapter
area: gorionar 5
Kuldahar <> Vale of Shadows (AR2100 AR3000)
WOLF.CRE - Wolf x10

yes. Ideally with percentage chance value for the encounter (for example 5%). For easier implementation additional information where to place the party and CRE files on the map (image coordinates) would be useful too.

Edited November 19, 2019 by K4thos

[bob_veng]

here are some IWD1 main campaign random encounters i've been thinking up, i'd like someone to state an opinion on them before i start doing the coordinates.

edit: now also IWD2, HoW, and ship travel; the coordinates have been done as well (not included here); updated table: 

 

Edited November 27, 2019 by bob_veng

[Guest Fluke13]

Nice table Bob, looks good to me. The only ideas I had, not included, would be a barbarian scouting group, Aurilite hag and potential some more peaceful fun encounters, rather than just all attacks? Perhaps some of the encounters could be level based, e.g. wolves or winter wolves, wizard or hag, yeti or yeti chief, ettins or giants etc.

I was also thinking of something a little bit random (basically the IE games are full of secrets and I like adding obscure secrets). If it's too much or doesn't belong here, then that's fine, I won't be upset heh. So anyway, the idea is that, in each random encounter location you can find clues - if you possess all the clues, you can discover a new spell.

Bob - if you give me a week or so, I'll share the areas with you and K4thos.

K4thos - do you want me to go ahead and work on night weds for the areas - I'm no artist, but I've done one area using simple filters - to check if you wanted it like that. Otherwise perhaps one of the more artistic people (*cough" Bob) could create night Tis.

[bob_veng]

thanks, good to hear, i've started adding coordinates and tweaking the numbers a bit

first something important for your work on areas: two areas have been slightly altered to make them more spatially coherent

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ptwy3ogtmr4ouz8/AAC-pzCHNbjD1fyK6UvcVHNMa?dl=0

 

encounter ideas: aurilite hag sounds great. 

i don't have any ideas for a peaceful encounter other than something cheesy like travelling merchant. we can probably think of something cool and easy to implement.

Clues idea would constitute a whole quest. Those would likely have to be one-time encounters, and having in mind the linearity of IWD and randomness of the encounters i think it might not be feasible. 

I'm a bit of an opponent of level based anything. basically i'm looking to avoid even a perception of progressing difficulty (can't be avoided practically tho), but I was thinking for a story-driven "scaling" encounter on top of specific ones described above like global 5% chance of maybe hobgoblins before the attack on kuldahar, and after that 5% neo-orog.

i almost started with barbarians but i figured i don't want to spoiler HoF creatures in IWD1 before their sprites appear in the course of the campaign. i think it's better to keep the "reveals" of various creatures where they belong.

 

edit: also updated the ship area by switching the background to standard bg water background and flattening the middle so creatures can move around (very minor change if you've already done the ship Fluke)

Edited November 26, 2019 by bob_veng

[bob_veng]

pls comment on the current encounters; they're grouped in the following order IWD1, IWD2, IWD1 (pt. 2), IWD2 (pt. 2), HoW, global, ship

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encounter name	00A small wolf pack	01A hobgoblins	01B large wolf pack	02A orc party	02B ice trolls	03A verbeeg with entourage	03B ettin with entourage
game	IWD1	IWD1	IWD1	IWD1	IWD1	IWD1	IWD1
chapter	any	any	any	any	any	any	any
area	g03	g06	g05	g02	g08b	g10	g06
location	AR2000 <> AR2100 (Kuld. Pass <> Kuld.)	AR2100 <> AR3000 (Kuld. <> Vale of Shadows)	AR2100 <> AR3000 (Kuld. <> Vale of Shadows)	AR2100 <> AR3600 (Kuld. <> Temple otFG ext.)	AR2100 <> AR3600 (Kuld. <> Temple otFG ext.)	AR2100 <> AR4000 (Kuld. <> Dragon's Eye exterior)	AR2100 <> AR4000 (Kuld. <> Dragon's Eye exterior)
chance	20%	15%	10%	15%	10%	15%	10%
cre 1	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	HOBARC02.CRE - Hobgoblin Archer	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	ORCWBOW.CRE - Orc /bow/	TROLLICE.CRE - Ice Troll	VERBEEG.CRE - Verbeeg	ETTIN.CRE - Ettin
cre 2	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	HOBARC02.CRE - Hobgoblin Archer	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	ORCWBOW.CRE - Orc /bow/	TROLLICE.CRE - Ice Troll	OGRE.CRE - Ogre	GOBEHQ1.CRE - Goblin Elite
cre 3	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	HOBARC02.CRE - Hobgoblin Archer	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	ORCWBOW.CRE - Orc /bow/	TROLLICE.CRE - Ice Troll	OGRHAL01.CRE - Half Ogre	GOBEHQ1.CRE - Goblin Elite
cre 4	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	HOBARC02.CRE - Hobgoblin Archer	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	ORCWAXE.CRE - Orc	TROLLICE.CRE - Ice Troll	OGRHAL01.CRE - Half Ogre	GOBEHQ1.CRE - Goblin Elite
cre 5	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	HOBELI01.CRE - Hobgoblin Elite	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	ORCEWBOW.CRE - Orc Elite /bow/	TROLLICE.CRE - Ice Troll	OGRHAL01.CRE - Half Ogre	GOBLINA.CRE - Goblin Archer
cre 6	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	HOBELI01.CRE - Hobgoblin Elite	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	ORCEWBOW.CRE - Orc Elite /bow/		DOGWAR01.CRE - War Dog	GOBLINA.CRE - Goblin Archer
cre 7	WOLFDI.CRE - Dire Wolf	HOBWIZ01.CRE - Hobgoblin Wizard	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	ORCSHAM.CRE - Orc Shaman		DOGWAR01.CRE - War Dog	GOBLINA.CRE - Goblin Archer
cre 8		HOBSHA01.CRE - Hobgoblin Shaman	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	OGRILL01.CRE - Ogrillon		DOGWAR01.CRE - War Dog	BEARBR.CRE - Bear
cre 9		HOBCAP01.CRE - Hobgoblin Captain	WOLFDI.CRE - Dire Wolf	OGRILL01.CRE - Ogrillon
cre 10		WOLFDI.CRE - Dire Wolf	BDWOLFDR.CRE - Dread Wolf
cre 11		WOLFDI.CRE - Dire Wolf
cre 12
encounter name	/	51A hobgoblins	51B large wolf pack	52A orc party	52B ice trolls	53A winter wolves	53B bugbear with entourage
game		IWD2	IWD2	IWD2	IWD2	IWD2	IWD2
chapter		any	any	any	any	any	any
area		g06	g05	g02	g08b	g10	g06
location		AR1200 <> AR2000 (Palisade <> Shaengarne River)	AR1200 <> AR2000 (Palisade <> Shaengarne River)	AR2102 <> AR1100/AR1200/AR1000 (Shaengarne Bridge <> Targos) AR1200 <> AR3000 (Palisade <> Fortress Gate)	AR2102 <> AR1100/AR1200/AR1000 (Shaengarne Bridge <> Targos) AR1200 <> AR3000 (Palisade <> Fortress Gate)	AR6001 <> AR4000 (Kuld. <> Dragon's Eye exterior)	AR2100 <> AR4000 (Kuld. <> Dragon's Eye exterior)
chance		15%	10%	15%	10%	25%	15%
cre 1		HOBARC02.CRE - Hobgoblin Archer	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	00ORCAR.CRE - Orc Archer	20TROICE.CRE - Ice Troll	50WFWGH.CRE - Greater Winter Wolf	66BUGB.CRE - Bugbear
cre 2		HOBARC02.CRE - Hobgoblin Archer	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	00ORCAR.CRE - Orc Archer	20TROICE.CRE - Ice Troll	50WFWH.CRE - Winter Wolf	31HOBE.CRE - Hobgoblin Elite - Hobgoblin Elite
cre 3		HOBARC02.CRE - Hobgoblin Archer	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	00ORCAR.CRE - Orc Archer	30ICETRL.CRE - Hardened Ice Troll	50WFWH.CRE - Winter Wolf	31HOBE.CRE - Hobgoblin Elite - Hobgoblin Elite
cre 4		HOBARC02.CRE - Hobgoblin Archer	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	20ORCW4.CRE - Orc Warrior	30ICETRL.CRE - Hardened Ice Troll	50WFWH.CRE - Winter Wolf	50WFDFH.CRE - Ferocious Dire Wolf
cre 5		HOBELI01.CRE - Hobgoblin Elite	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	00ORCARE.CRE - Orc Archer Elite	30ICETRL.CRE - Hardened Ice Troll	50WFWH.CRE - Winter Wolf	30GOBAES.CRE - Goblin Archer Elite
cre 6		HOBELI01.CRE - Hobgoblin Elite	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	00ORCARE.CRE - Orc Archer Elite		50WFWH.CRE - Winter Wolf	30GOBAES.CRE - Goblin Archer Elite
cre 7		HOBWIZ01.CRE - Hobgoblin Wizard	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	ORCSHAM.CRE - Orc Shaman		50WFWH.CRE - Winter Wolf	31GOBSH2.CRE - Goblin Shaman
cre 8		HOBSHA01.CRE - Hobgoblin Shaman	WOLF.CRE - Wolf	OGRILL01.CRE - Ogrillon		50WFWH.CRE - Winter Wolf	31GOBSO2.CRE - Goblin Sorcerer
cre 9		HOBCAP01.CRE - Hobgoblin Captain	WOLFDI.CRE - Dire Wolf	OGRILL01.CRE - Ogrillon
cre 10		WOLFDI.CRE - Dire Wolf	BDWOLFDR.CRE - Dread Wolf
cre 11		WOLFDI.CRE - Dire Wolf
cre 12
encounter name	04A neo-orog rear guard	05A mid-level outlaw party	05B tundra yeti	06A red wizard investigator	07A winter wolves	07B snow trolls	08A wandering spirits	08B ettins
game	IWD1	IWD1	IWD1	IWD1	IWD1	IWD1	IWD1	IWD1
chapter	2	any	any	any, only once	any	any	any	any
area	g07b	g01b	g11	g03	g05	g06	g09	g02
location	AR4000 > AR2100 (Dragon's Eye exterior > Kuld.)	AR2100 <> AR5000 (Kuld. <> Severed Hand exterior)	AR2100 <> AR5000 (Kuld. <> Severed Hand exterior)	AR2100 <> AR6000 (Kuld. <> Dorn's Deep exterior)	AR7000 <> AR2100 (LDD exterior <> Kuld.)	AR7000 <> AR2100 (LDD exterior<> Kuld.)	AR7000 <> AR5000 (LDD exterior <> Severed Hand exterior)	AR7000 <> AR5000 (LDD exterior <> Severed Hand exterior)
chance	50%	15%	10%	15%	15%	15%	10%	15%
cre 1	KAOROG.CRE - Neo-Orog Avenger	TALONAF.CRE - Talonite Priestess	KUYETI.CRE - Tundra Yeti	ohnredw6.CRE - Red Wizard	WINWOLF.CRE - Winter Wolf	TROLLSNO.CRE - Snow Troll	TROLSI01.CRE - Spirit Troll	WTETTIN.CRE - Ettin /stronger/
cre 2	KAOROG.CRE - Neo-Orog Avenger	REBAND03.CRE - Bandit	KUYETI.CRE - Tundra Yeti	NETHAY01.CRE - Thayan Wizard	WINWOLF.CRE - Winter Wolf	TROLLSNO.CRE - Snow Troll	TROLSP01.CRE - Spectral Troll	WTETTIN.CRE - Ettin /stronger/
cre 3	KAOROG.CRE - Neo-Orog Avenger	REBAND03.CRE - Bandit	KUYETI.CRE - Tundra Yeti	HLCLERIC.CRE - Cleric	WINWOLF.CRE - Winter Wolf	TROLLICE.CRE - Ice Troll	TROLSP01.CRE - Spectral Troll	WTETTIN.CRE - Ettin /stronger/
cre 4	KAOROG.CRE - Neo-Orog Avenger	LDDTHIEF.CRE - Thief	KUYETI.CRE - Tundra Yeti	bdure2c.CRE - Mercenary	WINWOLF.CRE - Winter Wolf	TROLLICE.CRE - Ice Troll		BEARPOLR.CRE - Polar Bear
cre 5	KAOROG.CRE - Neo-Orog Avenger	OGREMA01.CRE - Ogre Mage	KUYETI.CRE - Tundra Yeti	bdure2d.CRE - Mercenary	WINWOLF.CRE - Winter Wolf	TROLLICE.CRE - Ice Troll		BEARPOLR.CRE - Polar Bear
cre 6	KAOROGE.CRE - Neo-Orog Marauder	ohnogreb.CRE - Ogre /tough variant/	KUYETI.CRE - Tundra Yeti	FGOLEM.CRE - Flesh Golem	WINWOLF.CRE - Winter Wolf	DLICETR.CRE - Greater Ice Troll
cre 7	KAOROGE.CRE - Neo-Orog Marauder		KUYETI.CRE - Tundra Yeti
cre 8	NEOOROGG.CRE - Neo-Orog General		KUYETI.CRE - Tundra Yeti
cre 9			KUYETI.CRE - Tundra Yeti
cre 10			VSCYETI.CRE - Yeti Chieftain
cre 11
cre 12
encounter name	/	/	55A tundra yeti	/	/	55B snow trolls	58A wandering spirits	58B ettins
game			IWD2			IWD2	IWD2	IWD2
chapter			any			any	any	any
area			g11			g06	g09	g02
location			AR6201 <> AR6300 (Fields of Sl. exit <> Sev. Hand ext.)			AR6201 <> AR6300 (Fields of Sl. exit <> Sev. Hand ext.)	AR4100 <> AR5000 (Ice Temple ext. <> Wandering Village)	AR4100 <> AR5000 (Ice Temple ext. <> Wandering Village)
chance			10%			15%	10%	15%
cre 1			40YETITU.CRE - Tundra Yeti			50TROSH.CRE - Snow Troll	TROLSI01.CRE - Spirit Troll	WTETTIN.CRE - Ettin /stronger/
cre 2			40YETITU.CRE - Tundra Yeti			50TROSH.CRE - Snow Troll	TROLSP01.CRE - Spectral Troll	WTETTIN.CRE - Ettin /stronger/
cre 3			40YETITU.CRE - Tundra Yeti			50TROSH.CRE - Snow Troll	TROLSP01.CRE - Spectral Troll	WTETTIN.CRE - Ettin /stronger/
cre 4			40YETITU.CRE - Tundra Yeti			50TROSS.CRE - Snow Troll Shaman		41BEARPO.CRE - Polar Bear
cre 5			40YETITU.CRE - Tundra Yeti			50TROSG.CRE - Greater Snow Troll		41BEARPO.CRE - Polar Bear
cre 6			52YETGH.CRE - Ferocious Yeti			50TROSG.CRE - Greater Snow Troll
cre 7			52YETGH.CRE - Ferocious Yeti
cre 8			52YETGH.CRE - Ferocious Yeti
cre 9			52YETGH.CRE - Ferocious Yeti
cre 10			52YETGH.CRE - Ferocious Yeti
cre 11
cre 12
encounter name	09A cyclops	09B displaced orc tribe	10A white wyrms (wyverns)
game	HOF	HOF	HOF
chapter	any	any, only once	any
area	g01b	g11	g09
location	AR9100 <> AR9200 (Lonelywood > Barbarian Camp)	AR9100 > AR9200 (Lonelywood > Barbarian Camp)	AR9100 <> AR9500 (Lonelywood <> Gloomfrost)
chance	25%	25%	25%
cre 1	CYCLOPS.CRE - Cyclops	bdogre04.CRE - Half-Ogre Veteran \270 BG-SoD\	WYRM.CRE - White Wyrm
cre 2	CYCLOPS.CRE - Cyclops	bdogre05.CRE - Ogre Shaman \420 BG-SoD\	WYRM.CRE - White Wyrm
cre 3	CYCLOPS.CRE - Cyclops	ohnogreb.CRE - Ogre \650 BG2EE\	WYRM.CRE - White Wyrm
cre 4	CYCLOPS.CRE - Cyclops	ohnogreb.CRE - Ogre \650 BG2EE\	WYRM.CRE - White Wyrm
cre 5		ohnogreb.CRE - Ogre \650 BG2EE\	WYRM.CRE - White Wyrm
cre 6		ORC04.CRE - Orc Mage \1000 BG2EE\	WYRM.CRE - White Wyrm
cre 7		SARORC01.CRE - Elite Orc \650 BG2EE\
cre 8		orc01.CRE - Orc Warrior \120 BG-SoD\
cre 9		orc01.CRE - Orc Warrior \120 BG-SoD\
cre 10		orc01.CRE - Orc Warrior \120 BG-SoD\
cre 11		orc01.CRE - Orc Warrior \120 BG-SoD\
cre 12		orc05.CRE - Orc Shaman \420 BG-SoD\
cre 13		orc05.CRE - Orc Shaman \420 BG-SoD\
cre 14		orc07.CRE - Orc Bowmaster \175 BG-SoD\
cre 15		orc07.CRE - Orc Bowmaster \175 BG-SoD\
cre 16		orc07.CRE - Orc Bowmaster \175 BG-SoD\
cre 17		orc07.CRE - Orc Bowmaster \175 BG-SoD\
cre 18		orc07.CRE - Orc Bowmaster \175 BG-SoD\
cre 19		orc07.CRE - Orc Bowmaster \175 BG-SoD\
cre 20		WOLFDI.CRE - Dire Wolf \120 BG-SoD\
cre 21		WOLFDI.CRE - Dire Wolf \120 BG-SoD\
cre 22		WOLFDI.CRE - Dire Wolf \120 BG-SoD\
encounter name	70A global snow trolls	70B global cats (01B)
game	IWD1, HOF, IWD2	IWD1, HOF, IWD2
chapter	IWD1 Ch. 3+ HoW IWD2 Ch. 3+	IWD1 Ch. 3+ HoW IWD2 Ch. 3+
area	g10	g05
location	Any North (worldmap) <> Any North	Any North (worldmap) <> Any North
chance	5%	5%
cre 1	TROLLSNO.CRE - Snow Troll	20SNOLEP.CRE - Snow Leopard
cre 2	TROLLSNO.CRE - Snow Troll	20SNOLEP.CRE - Snow Leopard
cre 3	TROLLSNO.CRE - Snow Troll	20SNOLEP.CRE - Snow Leopard
cre 4	TROLLSNO.CRE - Snow Troll	20SNOLEP.CRE - Snow Leopard
cre 5	TROLLSNO.CRE - Snow Troll	20SNOLEP.CRE - Snow Leopard
cre 6		20SNOLEP.CRE - Snow Leopard
cre 7		20HGHCAT.CRE - Highland Cat
cre 8		20HGHCAT.CRE - Highland Cat
cre 9		20HGHCAT.CRE - Highland Cat
cre 10		20HGHCAT.CRE - Highland Cat
cre 11
cre 12
encounter name	90A ship harpies	91A ship scrags	92A ship sahuagin
game	IWD1, HOF, IWD2	IWD1, HOF, IWD2	IWD1, HOF, IWD2
chapter	any	any	any
area	ship01	ship01	ship01
location	Any Sword Coast <> Any North	Any Sword Coast <> Any North	Any Sword Coast <> Any North
chance	25%	25%	25%
cre 1	HRPCAT.CRE - Harpy	DLSCRAG.CRE - Scrag	SAHAMB04.CRE - Sahuagin
cre 2	HRPCAT.CRE - Harpy	DLSCRAG.CRE - Scrag	SAHAMB04.CRE - Sahuagin
cre 3	HRPCAT.CRE - Harpy	DLSCRAG.CRE - Scrag	SAHAMB05.CRE - Sahuagin
cre 4	HRPCAT.CRE - Harpy	DLSCRAG.CRE - Scrag	SAHAMB05.CRE - Sahuagin
cre 5	HRPCAT.CRE - Harpy	DLSCRAG.CRE - Scrag	SAHAMB06.CRE - Sahuagin
cre 6	HRPFND.CRE - Fiendish Harpy		SAHAMB06.CRE - Sahuagin
cre 7
cre 8
cre 9
cre 10
cre 11
cre 12

Edited November 27, 2019 by bob_veng

[K4thos]

everything looks good to me, I really appreciate the work you've done on it.

If someone would like to share feedback on those encounters before they are scripted, please share your thoughts.

[Jarno Mikkola]

That's a quite lot of creatures with one vs. all. Aka, you might want to make sure that the player character amount is 6 for the full party of 22 orc tribal, or you'll have a Total Party Kill's a plenty on your hands*. Also I would assume that the encounter area is a bit larger than in BG1 ? -where the area was approximately one character sight range.

*this is because the level cap in the game is at 9... because the hit point dice don't go on linearly. Nor spell effects > 20 lvl, AC > -10 etc etc etc.

Also, I would need to actually test those encounters before I can verify that they are passable... without cheese and with it too. Yes, I am talking about my party of 6 bards. No, actually not.

[bob_veng]

Orc encounter is in HoW. I chose it to be a big orc battle, because orcs are one of three most important races in the North (with dwarves and giants), and they're completely downplayed in IWD-HoW. I compared this battle (mentally...) with a battle in SoD composed of mostly SoD grunt orcs numbering ~15 (on highest diff.) and added 2-3 tougher enemies. The areas are the same size as in BG, and it's easy to fit 20 or so enemies into the field of view of a 6-member party (edit: well not in this case, some are intentionally outside):

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Edited November 27, 2019 by bob_veng