Sorceror stronghold

[Drew]

My sorceror isn't getting his stronghold. I don't think it's caused by anything I have installed. (I have the same stuff installed that I always do.)

[Kish]

My sorceror isn't getting his stronghold.  I don't think it's caused by anything I have installed.  (I have the same stuff installed that I always do.)

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

More details, if you would. What happens when you talk to Lavok?

[Drew]

when you get transported outside, Lavok just dies instead of starting the dialogue where he gives you the stronghold. Also, the solamnic knights don't do their "oh well...I guess we'll go out and do good stuff in this plane since only wizards know how to ask Ribald for a favor" dialogue that they should ordinarily be doing. I guess that means there's a spelling error or something that stops that dialogue from happening. I tried the save game out on an otherwise unmodded install and that still happens. Even if the sorceror doesn't get the stronghold, the solamnic knights should say different stuff the next time you talk to them. I bypassed the problem by overriding Lavok's .dlg file with a multistronghold patch component. The ease of use version didn't bypass this problem. Because it appends instead of overwriting, maybe? Anyway I still have a save to play with and I can restore this to original condition without problems. (I'm not dumb enough not to back stuff up before I overwrite it!) If you need me to try out some other stuff just let me know.

 

If anyone is curious here's my weidu log although I checked this on an unmodded (except for patch and fixpack) install as well:

 

// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods

// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod

// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // Component Name

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~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // BG2 Fixpack - Game Text Update

~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Super Happy Fun Lucky Modder Pack

~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Optional, but cool

~1PP/1PP.TP2~ #0 #0 // 1PP: Everything but Potions

~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #15 // Bonus Merchants (Baldurdash)

~SETUP-GMINION.TP2~ #0 #0 // gMinion v1.6.5

~SETUP-VALHORN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Improved Horns of Valhalla v1.1

~CLIFFKEY/SETUP-CLIFFKEY.TP2~ #0 #0 // A Mod for the Orderly - Add a Keyring to Faerun!

~SETUP-BAGBONUS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Bonus Potioncase and Ammobelt to Deidre's store

~SETUP-DARKRITUAL.TP2~ #0 #1 // Improved Cult of the Unseeing Eye

~SETUP-DARKRITUAL.TP2~ #0 #2 // Improved Harper Fight

~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Changes to trueclass bards and thieves, and unmodded game kits (required for other components)

~SETUP-APACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Thief kit & HLA revisions

~SETUP-APACK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Bard kit & HLA revisions

~SETUP-APACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Chosen of Cyric Encounter

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #6 // Improved Guarded Compound in the Temple District

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #7 // Improved Twisted Rune

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #12 // Gebhard Blucher's Improved Demon Knights

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #15 // Kensai Ryu's Improved Crypt King

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #16 // Ishan's "Always Toughest Random Spawns in Dungeons"

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #18 // Kensai Ryu's Random Wilderness Encounters

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #26 // Fighter-Class Archer Kit

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #28 // Göran Rimén's Improved Nymphs

~SETUP-RITEMPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Enhanced Girdle of Fortitude

~SETUP-RITEMPACK.TP2~ #0 #8 // BG1 Ring of Wizardry

~SETUP-XPMOD.TP2~ #0 #8 // No XP for learning spells

~G3ANNIVERSARY/SETUP-G3ANNIVERSARY.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Gibberlings Three Anniversary Mod

~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Pocket Plane Banter Pack for BG2: Shadows of Amn

~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Install SOA Banter Accelerator script? (Increases the frequency of interparty banter)

~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Pocket Plane Banter Pack for BG2: Throne of Bhaal

~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Install TOB Banter Accelerator script? (Increases the frequency of interparty banter)

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Kidnapping of Boo by Cliffette

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Suna Seni/Valygar Relationship

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Kalah and What He Was Promised

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #3 // "Cat and Mouse" (Bodhi hunts you in Spellhold) by Ghreyfain

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Gorje Hilldark and the Extended Illithium Quest

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #5 // The Pai'Na/Spider's Bane Quest

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #6 // Restored Crooked Crane Inn

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #7 // Restored Encounters

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #8 // Artemis Entreri in Bodhi's Lair

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Corrected "Xzar's Creations"

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #10 // Restored Hell Minions, by SimDing0

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #11 // Gorf the Squisher Fix, by Gebhard Blucher

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Item Restorations

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #13 // Yoshimo's Original Portrait

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #16 // Corrected BAMs and Scripts

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Corrected Character Names and Biographies

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #18 // Restored Minor Dialogs

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #20 // Extended ToB Item Descriptions

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Throne of Bhaal Minor Restorations

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #24 // Sarevok's Remorse

~BWQUEST.TP2~ #0 #0 // Black Rose Part I: Market Prices

~SETUP-D0QUEST.TP2~ #0 #0 // Additional Shadow Thieves' Content

~SETUP-D0QUEST.TP2~ #0 #1 // Alternative Harper/Xzar Plot

~SETUP-D0QUEST.TP2~ #0 #2 // Extended Reynald Sequence

~SETUP-D0QUEST.TP2~ #0 #4 // Miscellaneous Encounters

~SETUP-OASIS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Improved Oasis II - Dialogue Enhancement

~SETUP-OASIS.TP2~ #0 #1 // Improved Oasis II - Combat Enhancement (English Only)

~EMAD/SETUP-EMAD.TP2~ #0 #0 // A Z-rated Adventure - an IM4 Non-Entry

~EMAD/SETUP-EMAD.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Promise of a Troll

~EMAD/SETUP-EMAD.TP2~ #0 #3 // Under Her Spell

~EMAD/SETUP-EMAD.TP2~ #0 #4 // Forgery

~EMAD/SETUP-EMAD.TP2~ #0 #5 // Character Medley

~EMAD/SETUP-EMAD.TP2~ #0 #2 // A Bhaalspawn's Best Friend

~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Tougher Sendai (TOB Required)

~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #5 // Cleric Kits

~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #7 // Holy Liberator

~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Enhanced Goodberries

~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #4 // Tweaked Weapon Enchantments

~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #10 // Smarter Illusionary Clones

~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #14 // Jaysyn's Displacer Beasts

~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #15 // Remove Quayle Portrait

~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #0 // SoA World Map Fixes

~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3 // Change Magically Created Weapons to Zero Weight

~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #6 // Make +x/+y Weapons Consistent

~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #7 // English Only: Description Updates for Make +x/+y Weapons Consistent Component

~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #49 // Weapon Animation Tweaks

~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #67 // Change Avatar When Wearing Robes or Leather Armor (Galactygon)

~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #91 // Force All Dialogue to Pause

~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #110 // Weapon Styles for All

~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #129 // Allow Stealth and Thieving Abilities in Heavy Armor

~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #130 // English Only: Alter Item Descriptions for 'Stealth and Thieving Abilities in Heavy Armor' Component

~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #133 // Allow Arcane Spellcasting in Armor

~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #180 // Maximum

~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #183 // For All Creatures in Game

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~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #231 // Change Jaheira to Neutral Good

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~SETUP-REFINEMENTS.TP2~ #0 #3 // Universal lesser mage robes

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~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Sensible weapon restrictions for MODS

~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #3 // Throwing Spears

~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #4 // Wizard Slayer kit MR bonus (8% + 4%/level)

~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #14 // Sensible weapon restrictions for SoA (non-mod weapons)

~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #15 // Sensible weapon restrictions for ToB (non-mod weapons)

~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #16 // SoA Anomen's new proficiencies (Long Sword, Spear, Xbow)] [Requires Sensible Weapons for SoA

~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #17 // ToB Anomen's new proficiencies (Long Sword, Spear, Xbow)] [Requires Sensible Weapons for ToB

~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #18 // SoA Viconia's new proficiencies (Crossbow, Flail, Single-weapon Style, Scimitar, and Short Sword)] [Requires Sensible Weapons for SoA

~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #19 // ToB Viconia's new proficiencies (Crossbow, Flail, Single-weapon Style, Scimitar, and Short Sword)] [Requires Sensible Weapons for ToB

~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #2 // Unique weapons (bolas and katars)

~SETUP-MINSCKIT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Add berserker kit

~SETUP-MINSCKIT.TP2~ #0 #1 // Berserker Minsc

[NiGHTMARE]

Also, the solamnic knights don't do their "oh well...I guess we'll go out and do good stuff in this plane since only wizards know how to ask Ribald for a favor" dialogue that they should ordinarily be doing.

This may have something to do with Sim's Quest pack, since it allows non-mages to send them home.

[SimDing0]

The released version doesn't touch the mage stronghold.

[Nim]

You should be able to get the stronghold by not bringing Lavok outside. At least that's how I managed to get around that bug.

[Drew]

You should be able to get the stronghold by not bringing Lavok outside. At least that's how I managed to get around that bug.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I take that as a confirmation of the bug. So, the question is whether this is caused by the fixpack or simply not fixed by it. I am also assuming that the bug isn't sorceror specific, but rather applies with all mages. I brought a test party through a fixpack only install to check this out. I'll post the results soon.

 

Edit: Yeah......not like it's a surprise but no wizards can get the stronghold in alpha 5. Unless you kill Lavok yourself.

[devSin]

I ran into this some time back. He destroys his MINHP1 before the transition to Ar0400, and his script issues Kill(Myself) if he doesn't have MINHP1. I don't think the fixpack is causing this (exacerbating, maybe, but not causing).

 

Locally, I think I killed this by just removing the DestroyItem() call made before the transition (he does it at every possible point up to his death, and I don't think it's ever even necessary).

[Nim]

not like it's a surprise but no wizards can get the stronghold in alpha 5. Unless you kill Lavok yourself.

Sure you can get it, as I said, just don't fulfill his wish to see Athkatla a last time. That's not the same as killing him.

[Rastor]

In the game without the Fixpack, the wizard stronghold worked 100% of the time (and I always play mages). Therefore, it's quite possible that this bug is being caused by the fixpack.

[CamDawg]

Ah, devSin's on to it. When you agree to take Lavok outside, there was a broken DestroyItem("minhp1") trigger in state 58 that we fix. As devSin points out, though, Lavok's script kills him instantly if the item is removed so he dies before the outside dialogue can trigger. As both his outside dialogues already include a DestroyItem("minhp1") before issuing Kill() actions, we should remove rather than fix the broken action here.

 

In soa-d, changed

 

REPLACE_ACTION_TEXT ~lavok~    ~DestroyItem(MINHP1)~ ~DestroyItem("MINHP1")~

 

to

 

REPLACE_ACTION_TEXT ~lavok~    ~DestroyItem(MINHP1)~ ~~

 

Cheers, all. Wiki updated.