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How long is it for Cross Mod NPCs to talk? I have Yasreana, Tsujatha and Kivan and none have said anything to the other 2. It's been 20 in-game days, icyww.

 

Install order:

ToB patch

Baldurdash

DBG

EoU

Flirt Pack

Yasreana

Tsujatha

Kivan

Cross Mod Banter pack

 

Also, I have the Romance Conflict portion installed. What does that do? The only conflict I have had was between Anomen and Tsujatha. Here's my debug file:

WeiDU v 191 Log

 

C:\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\Setup-CrossmodBG2.exe

[./CHITIN.KEY] loaded, 590551 bytes

[./CHITIN.KEY] 182 BIFFs, 41793 resources

[dialog.tlk] loaded, 10904924 bytes

[dialog.tlk] 93614 string entries

[./Autorun.ini] loaded, 1452 bytes

[./baldur.ini] loaded, 3656 bytes

Possible HD/CD Path: [C:\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\]

Possible HD/CD Path: [C:\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\CD1\]

Possible HD/CD Path: [C:\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\CD2\]

Possible HD/CD Path: [C:\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\CD2\]

Possible HD/CD Path: [C:\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\CD3\]

Possible HD/CD Path: [C:\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\CD4\]

Possible HD/CD Path: [C:\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\CD5\]

[./Keymap.ini] loaded, 5615 bytes

[./Mplaynow.ini] loaded, 230 bytes

[C:\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\Setup-CrossmodBG2.exe] Using scripting style "BG"

[dialog.tlk] claims to be writeable.

[dialog.tlk] claims to be a regular file.

[WeiDU.log] parsed

[CROSSMODBG2/SETUP-CROSSMODBG2.TP2] parsed

SETUP-DUNGEONBEGONE.TP2  0  0 Installed

SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2  0 12 Installed

SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2  0 14 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0  0 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0  3 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0  4 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0  6 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0 10 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0 11 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0 12 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0 13 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0 15 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0 18 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0 19 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0 20 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0 21 Installed

SETUP-TSUJATHA.TP2  0  0 Installed

SETUP-YASRAENA.TP2  0  0 Installed

SETUP-KIVAN.TP2  0  0 Installed

SETUP-KIVAN.TP2  0  5 Installed

SETUP-KIVAN.TP2  0  7 Installed

 

Install Component [Crossmod Banter Pack for Shadows of Amn]?

nstall, or [N]ot Install or [Q]uit?

Installing [Crossmod Banter Pack for Shadows of Amn]

Checking for forbidden files ...

[override/fw0100.are] not found (as desired)

Appending to files ...

BIFF may be in hard-drive CD-path [C:\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\CD5\/data/Default.bif]

BIFF may be in hard-drive CD-path [C:\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\CD4\/data/Default.bif]

BIFF may be in hard-drive CD-path [C:\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\CD3\/data/Default.bif]

BIFF may be in hard-drive CD-path [C:\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\CD2\/data/Default.bif]

BIFF may be in hard-drive CD-path [C:\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\CD2\/data/Default.bif]

BIFF may be in hard-drive CD-path [C:\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\CD1\/data/Default.bif]

BIFF may be in hard-drive CD-path [C:\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\/data/Default.bif]

[C:\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\/data/Default.bif] 5847739 bytes, 444 files, 0 tilesets

Appending [0x80101FEF CD_STATE_NOTVALID...] to [state.ids] because it does NOT contain [CD_STATE_NOTVALID]

Appended text to [state.ids]

[./override/p#kivan.dlg] loaded, 2872 bytes

[./override/p#kivan.dlg] loaded, 2872 bytes

[./override/tsujath.dlg] loaded, 3492 bytes

Compiling 1 dialogue file ...

[./override/TRIGGER.IDS] loaded, 7905 bytes

[TRIGGER.IDS] parsed

[./override/STATE.IDS] loaded, 1581 bytes

[sTATE.IDS] parsed

[./override/ACTION.IDS] loaded, 13105 bytes

[ACTION.IDS] parsed

[CrossmodBG2/SoA/KivanOfShilmista-Tsujatha/Banters.d] parsed

Processing 1 dialogues/scripts ...

[./override/BTSUJAT.DLG] loaded, 89427 bytes

[bTSUJAT.DLG] loaded

[./override/BP#KIV.DLG] loaded, 36033 bytes

[bP#KIV.DLG] loaded

[bP#KIV.DLG] saved 438 states, 544 trans, 24 strig, 79 ttrig, 37 actions

override/BP#KIV.dlg copied to CrossmodBG2\Backup/0/BP#KIV.dlg, 36033 bytes

[bTSUJAT.DLG] saved 1228 states, 1565 trans, 81 strig, 1 ttrig, 153 actions

override/BTSUJAT.dlg copied to CrossmodBG2\Backup/0/BTSUJAT.dlg, 89427 bytes

[./override/p#kivan.dlg] loaded, 2872 bytes

[./override/yasraena.dlg] loaded, 1955 bytes

Compiling 1 dialogue file ...

[CrossmodBG2/SoA/KivanOfShilmista-Yasraena/Banters.d] parsed

Processing 1 dialogues/scripts ...

[./override/BYASRAEN.DLG] loaded, 73810 bytes

[bYASRAEN.DLG] loaded

[./override/BP#KIV.DLG] loaded, 37449 bytes

[bP#KIV.DLG] loaded

[bYASRAEN.DLG] saved 944 states, 1300 trans, 74 strig, 8 ttrig, 161 actions

override/BYASRAEN.dlg copied to CrossmodBG2\Backup/0/BYASRAEN.dlg, 73810 bytes

[bP#KIV.DLG] saved 475 states, 582 trans, 27 strig, 80 ttrig, 40 actions

[./override/tsujath.dlg] loaded, 3492 bytes

[./override/yasraena.dlg] loaded, 1955 bytes

Compiling 1 dialogue file ...

[CrossmodBG2/SoA/Tsujatha-Yasraena/Banters.d] parsed

Processing 1 dialogues/scripts ...

[./override/BTSUJAT.DLG] loaded, 90878 bytes

[bTSUJAT.DLG] loaded

[./override/BYASRAEN.DLG] loaded, 77296 bytes

[bYASRAEN.DLG] loaded

[bYASRAEN.DLG] saved 953 states, 1309 trans, 75 strig, 8 ttrig, 162 actions

[bTSUJAT.DLG] saved 1238 states, 1575 trans, 83 strig, 1 ttrig, 155 actions

 

 

 

Install Component [Crossmod Banter Pack for Throne of Bhaal]?

nstall, or [N]ot Install or [Q]uit?

Installing [Crossmod Banter Pack for Throne of Bhaal]

Checking for forbidden files ...

[override/fw0100.are] not found (as desired)

Checking for required files ...

[data/25dialog.bif] found: 705847 bytes

[./override/p#kivan.dlg] loaded, 2872 bytes

[./override/p#kivan.dlg] loaded, 2872 bytes

[./override/yasraena.dlg] loaded, 1955 bytes

Compiling 1 dialogue file ...

[CrossmodBG2/SoA/KivanOfShilmista-Yasraena/Banters.d] parsed

Processing 1 dialogues/scripts ...

[./override/BYASRAEN.DLG] loaded, 77992 bytes

[bYASRAEN.DLG] loaded

[./override/BP#KIV.DLG] loaded, 40310 bytes

[bP#KIV.DLG] loaded

[bYASRAEN.DLG] saved 992 states, 1350 trans, 79 strig, 10 ttrig, 168 actions

override/BYASRAEN.dlg copied to CrossmodBG2\Backup/1/BYASRAEN.dlg, 77992 bytes

[bP#KIV.DLG] saved 512 states, 620 trans, 30 strig, 81 ttrig, 43 actions

override/BP#KIV.dlg copied to CrossmodBG2\Backup/1/BP#KIV.dlg, 40310 bytes

[./override/tsujath.dlg] loaded, 3492 bytes

[./override/yasraena.dlg] loaded, 1955 bytes

Compiling 1 dialogue file ...

[CrossmodBG2/ToB/Tsujatha-Yasraena/Banters.d] parsed

Processing 1 dialogues/scripts ...

[./override/BTSUJA25.DLG] loaded, 35305 bytes

[bTSUJA25.DLG] loaded

[./override/BYASRA25.DLG] loaded, 10439 bytes

[bYASRA25.DLG] loaded

[bTSUJA25.DLG] saved 505 states, 643 trans, 33 strig, 0 ttrig, 56 actions

override/BTSUJA25.dlg copied to CrossmodBG2\Backup/1/BTSUJA25.dlg, 35305 bytes

[bYASRA25.DLG] saved 161 states, 161 trans, 19 strig, 0 ttrig, 19 actions

override/BYASRA25.dlg copied to CrossmodBG2\Backup/1/BYASRA25.dlg, 10439 bytes

 

 

 

Install Component [Crossmod Romance Conflicts]?

nstall, or [N]ot Install or [Q]uit?

Installing [Crossmod Romance Conflicts]

Copying and patching 1 file ...

[CrossmodBG2/romances.2da] loaded, 2681 bytes

[override/tsujath.bcs] loaded, 25126 bytes

Copying and patching 1 file ...

[CrossmodBG2/romances.2da] loaded, 2681 bytes

[override/tsujath.bcs] loaded, 25126 bytes

[override/tsujat25.bcs] loaded, 13457 bytes

[override/tsujath.bcs] loaded, 25126 bytes

[override/tsujat25.bcs] loaded, 13457 bytes

[override/tsujath.bcs] loaded, 25126 bytes

[override/tsujat25.bcs] loaded, 13457 bytes

[override/tsujath.bcs] loaded, 25126 bytes

[override/tsujat25.bcs] loaded, 13457 bytes

[override/tsujath.bcs] loaded, 25126 bytes

[override/tsujat25.bcs] loaded, 13457 bytes

[override/tsujath.bcs] loaded, 25126 bytes

[override/tsujat25.bcs] loaded, 13457 bytes

[override/tsujath.bcs] loaded, 25126 bytes

[override/tsujat25.bcs] loaded, 13457 bytes

[override/tsujath.bcs] loaded, 25126 bytes

[override/tsujat25.bcs] loaded, 13457 bytes

[override/tsujath.bcs] loaded, 25126 bytes

[override/tsujat25.bcs] loaded, 13457 bytes

CrossmodBG2/romances.2da copied to CrossmodBG2\Backup/2/romances.2da, 2681 bytes

Copied [CrossmodBG2/romances.2da] to [CrossmodBG2/romances.2da]

Copied [CrossmodBG2/romances.2da] to [CrossmodBG2/romances.2da]

 

 

Saving This Log:

SETUP-DUNGEONBEGONE.TP2  0  0 Installed

SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2  0 12 Installed

SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2  0 14 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0  0 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0  3 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0  4 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0  6 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0 10 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0 11 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0 12 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0 13 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0 15 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0 18 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0 19 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0 20 Installed

SETUP-EASE.TP2  0 21 Installed

SETUP-TSUJATHA.TP2  0  0 Installed

SETUP-YASRAENA.TP2  0  0 Installed

SETUP-KIVAN.TP2  0  0 Installed

SETUP-KIVAN.TP2  0  5 Installed

SETUP-KIVAN.TP2  0  7 Installed

CROSSMODBG2/SETUP-CROSSMODBG2.TP2  0  0 Installed ~Crossmod Banter Pack for Shadows of Amn~

CROSSMODBG2/SETUP-CROSSMODBG2.TP2  0  1 Installed ~Crossmod Banter Pack for Throne of Bhaal~

CROSSMODBG2/SETUP-CROSSMODBG2.TP2  0  2 Installed ~Crossmod Romance Conflicts~

[sETUP-DUNGEONBEGONE.TP2] parsed

[jassy/setup.tra] parsed

[jassy/setup.tra] has 2 translation strings

[sETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2] parsed

[npcflirt/english/setup.tra] parsed

[npcflirt/english/setup.tra] has 24 translation strings

[npcflirt/english/setup.tra] parsed

[npcflirt/english/setup.tra] has 24 translation strings

[sETUP-EASE.TP2] parsed

[ease/american/ease.tra] parsed

[ease/american/ease.tra] has 51 translation strings

[ease/american/ease.tra] parsed

[ease/american/ease.tra] has 51 translation strings

[ease/american/ease.tra] parsed

[ease/american/ease.tra] has 51 translation strings

[ease/american/ease.tra] parsed

[ease/american/ease.tra] has 51 translation strings

[ease/american/ease.tra] parsed

[ease/american/ease.tra] has 51 translation strings

[ease/american/ease.tra] parsed

[ease/american/ease.tra] has 51 translation strings

[ease/american/ease.tra] parsed

[ease/american/ease.tra] has 51 translation strings

[ease/american/ease.tra] parsed

[ease/american/ease.tra] has 51 translation strings

[ease/american/ease.tra] parsed

[ease/american/ease.tra] has 51 translation strings

[ease/american/ease.tra] parsed

[ease/american/ease.tra] has 51 translation strings

[ease/american/ease.tra] parsed

[ease/american/ease.tra] has 51 translation strings

[ease/american/ease.tra] parsed

[ease/american/ease.tra] has 51 translation strings

[ease/american/ease.tra] parsed

[ease/american/ease.tra] has 51 translation strings

[sETUP-TSUJATHA.TP2] parsed

[Tsujatha/English/Setup-Tsujatha.tra] parsed

[Tsujatha/English/Setup-Tsujatha.tra] has 80 translation strings

[sETUP-YASRAENA.TP2] parsed

[sETUP-KIVAN.TP2] parsed

[Kivan/tra/english/setup.tra] parsed

[Kivan/tra/english/setup.tra] has 183 translation strings

[Kivan/tra/english/setup.tra] parsed

[Kivan/tra/english/setup.tra] has 183 translation strings

[Kivan/tra/english/setup.tra] parsed

[Kivan/tra/english/setup.tra] has 183 translation strings

[CROSSMODBG2/SETUP-CROSSMODBG2.TP2] parsed

15449 characters, 151 entries added to DIALOG.TLK

[dialog.tlk] created, 93765 string entries

 

SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED [Crossmod Romance Conflicts]

 

SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED [Crossmod Banter Pack for Throne of Bhaal]

 

SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED [Crossmod Banter Pack for Shadows of Amn]

 

  WeiDU Timings

adding translation strings      0.000

unmarshal BIFF                  0.000

AT_*                            0.000

load TLK                        0.000

FORBID_FILE                      0.000

REQUIRE_FILE                    0.000

COMPILE                          0.000

parsing .log files              0.000

resolve strings                  0.000

PATCH_IF                        0.000

process_patch2                  0.000

BUT_ONLY                        0.000

strings to add                  0.000

COPY                            0.015

APPEND                          0.015

parsing .ids files              0.016

process .D files                0.016

resolve labels                  0.016

find local string                0.016

saving files                    0.030

READ_*                          0.031

eval_pe                          0.031

parsing .tra files              0.032

parsing .tp2 files              0.046

marshal DLG                      0.064

unmarshal KEY                    0.094

unmarshal DLG                    0.110

parsing .d files                0.141

add strings to TLK              0.172

marshal and save TLK            0.203

unmarshal TLK                    0.328

loading files                    0.796

TOTAL                            2.172

Executing: [start CrossmodBG2/readme-crossmodbg2.html]

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The new banters are triggered by the game banter engine so I can't say how long it'll take for them to show up.

 

Also, I have the Romance Conflict portion installed. What does that do? The only conflict I have had was between Anomen and Tsujatha.

 

The readme says...

 

Crossmod Romance Conflicts

This component will add romance conflicts between many mod NPCs in SoA (and ToB if it is installed). If you prefer multi-romances, don't install this.

 

Contains:

 

    * Romance auto-kills for Arnel's Nalia Romance, Chloe, Corthala Romantique, Fade, Kelsey, Lord Mirrabbo's Imoen Romance, Saerileth, Sime from Tortured Souls, Tashia, Tsujatha and Weimer's Solaufein

 

It provides romance auto-kills for those romances i.e. when one of those romances becomes serious any of the rest of them is automatically killed off. That's all it does for now. And as you only have one of those romances installed, it currently does bugger all.

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I'm having the no one talking difficulty, too. To be more precise, Yasraena and Kivan are not speaking to one another. All other banters seem to be firing normally, but even with Cntrl-I, I cannot get the two of them to speak to each other.

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I'm having the no one talking difficulty, too.  To be more precise, Yasraena and Kivan are not speaking to one another.  All other banters seem to be firing normally, but even with Cntrl-I, I cannot get the two of them to speak to each other.

 

Okay, check your debug file to see if it contains the line:

 

[CrossmodBG2/SoA/KivanOfShilmista-Yasraena/Banters.d] parsed

 

I'll take a lot at my copy of the .d and see if anything seems odd.

 

Edit:

 

Okay these are the conditions to start their first banter. Could you compare with your game to see if anything is different?

 

InParty("P#Kivan")
See("P#Kivan")
!Dead("P#Kivan")
!StateCheck("Yasraena",CD_STATE_NOTVALID)
!StateCheck("P#Kivan",CD_STATE_NOTVALID)
CombatCounter(0)
!Global("DivalirRescued","GLOBAL",1)
Global("G#XB.KoSYasraeBanter1","GLOBAL",0)

 

Oh and CD_STATE_NOTVALID is just a combination of being dead, paralysed, asleep etc. Basically anything that could prevent them talking.

Edited by Grim Squeaker

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Okay, problem solved. Looks like Bookwyrme installed Crossmod before her mod NPCs. This doesn't work as Crossmod needs to detect what mod NPCs you have installed in order to install the new material.

 

(Not naming and shaming her here, just recording the solution in case other people come up with the same 'bug')

Edited by Grim Squeaker

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The new banters are triggered by the game banter engine so I can't say how long it'll take for them to show up. 

 

So...not having any banters for the entirety of SoA is normal?!?

:D:)

Edited by kuemper

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The new banters are triggered by the game banter engine so I can't say how long it'll take for them to show up. 

 

So...not having any banters for the entirety of SoA is normal?!?

:D:)

 

That's not what I said. I said I don't know when they'll show up but they'll occur at the same rate as other normal banters.

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Well, they never showed up in mine. The rest of the party bantered with each other, but Tsujatha, Kivan and Yasraena did not talk to each other. My mods haven't changed and the debug file is the same as what I posted. I got to Hell to finish off Irenicus before I just gave up. :)

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Did you try using Ctrl+I? If the banter did not summon with Ctrl+I it could indicate a glitch in the installation similar to what Bookwyrme had experienced. Did you also try installing the banter engine accelerator, such as provided with the PPG banter pack?

 

Grim, I was wondering if you have JC's code as an optional part of CBP, and if you think it's a good idea to integrate it if it is not in?

Edited by Domi

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CTRL+I works, but I don't get banters amongst Tsu, Yas and Kivan. I CRTL+I'ed for a couple hours real-time several times throughout the game. I have the Flirt Pack excelerator installed.

 

Install order:

ToB official patch

Baldurdash

EoU

DBG

Flirt pack

Tsujatha

Yasraena

Kivan

Cross-Mod banter pack

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For what it's worth, now that my install order is correct, Kivan & Yasraena are bantering just fine. I don't have Tsu in the party, so I can't comment on him.

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I think that modded banter shows up after the non-modded get exhausted due to weights. Don't quote me on this, because Grim would know better how he organized it in the CMB. Your debug indicates perfectly good install. Try at least once to Ctrl+I so that _no_ dialogue summons whatsoever after you pressed it numerous times. If you still don't get the modded banter, Grim is your man :)

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I think that modded banter shows up after the non-modded get exhausted due to weights. Don't quote me on this, because Grim would know better how he organized it in the CMB.

 

That's almost certainly true.

 

With stuff not showing up, that is extremely odd indeed. Before I originally released the mod I had Sillara and Nethrin try out all the banters and they showed up just fine. Your install order looks fine as well, so I'm really not sure what to suggest.

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