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Guest Manwe

Hey everyone,

 

As I was going through my character record sheets I discovered that my sorcerer and monk both had base 0 THAC0. I'm wondering if this may be a glitch through one of the P2P progression tables I installed. If this could be looked into it'd be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

 

-Manwe

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Guest Manwe

Hey,

 

It's a new game so everyone has no exp. I installed this mod right after the core mods so If I do roll back it'll uninstall the 20+ other mods I have on right now. If there's any other less hassle method I'd be glad to try it. If not I suppose it wouldn't be a huge deal.

 

Thanks,

Manwe

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Just FYI, Tweaks should always be installed last, or close to last, as per this thread (though this is for Tutu and you may be talking about BG2, but the same concept should apply). I tested the PnP THAC0 table in EasyTutu (with no other components), spawned a few NPCs, gave them some XP and didn't notice any problems. So we're still not really sure what exactly is the issue, but it doesn't rule out a problem with this table. Based on the fact it's new and a few people have reported this glitch, I'd recommend deprecating it until the next release. Just use the Blucher table which has been around a while and doesn't go into the negatives. Though other people have reported issues with saving throws and spells, and those are different components, so the problem could be more complex. Can you post the contents of your WeiDU.log file. Thanks.

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Alright thanks, I'll give my chars some exp and see what happens. Here's my WeiDu Log. I am using a BGT installation.

 

// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods

// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod

// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name

~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // BG2 Fixpack - Core Fixes

~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // BG2 Fixpack - Game Text Update

~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Super Happy Fun Lucky Modder Pack

~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // BETA Core Fixes (please check the readme!)

~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #100 // Party Gets XP for Sending Keldorn to Reconcile With Maria

~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #101 // Improved Spell Animations

~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #103 // Mixed-Use Dagger Fixes

~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #104 // Ghreyfain's Holy Symbol Fixes

~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #105 // Additional Hero Quests in Trademeet Wait Until Hero is Officially Named

~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #106 // Giants Receive Penalties When Attacking Halflings, Dwarves, and Gnomes

~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #107 // Remove Dual-Classing Restriction from Archers and Stalkers

~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #108 // Remove Second Attribute Bonus for Evil Path in Wrath Hell Trial

~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #109 // Corrected Summoned Demon Behavior

~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #110 // Additional Script Fixes

~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #111 // Bard Song Fixes

~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #112 // Wizard Slayers Cause Miscast Magic on Ranged Attacks

~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #113 // Additional Alignment Fixes

~SETUP-BGT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Baldur's Gate Trilogy - Core 1.04

~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ascension v1.41 (requires ToB)

~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #1 // Tougher Abazigal (optional, requires ToB)

~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #2 // Original Tougher Demogorgon (optional, requires ToB)

~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #3 // Tougher Gromnir (optional, requires ToB)

~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #5 // Tougher Yaga-Shura (optional, requires ToB)

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #40 // Change Viconia's Skin Color to Dark Blue

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #50 // Avatar Morphing Script

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #60 // Weapon Animation Tweaks

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #70 // Icewind Dale Casting Graphics (Andyr)

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #100 // Commoners Use Drab Colors

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #110 // Icon Improvements

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #120 // Change Avatar When Wearing Robes or Armor (Galactygon)

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #130 // Force All Dialogue to Pause Game

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1010 // More Interjections

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1020 // Alter HP Triggers for NPC Wounded Dialogues

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1040 // Improved Athkatlan City Guard

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1070 // Improved Kick-out Dialogues

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1080 // Add Bags of Holding

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1090 // Exotic Item Pack

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1120 // Stores Sell Higher Stacks of Items

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1130 // Reputation Resets in BG2 (BGT Only)

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1150 // Shapeshifter Rebalancing

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1160 // Multiple Strongholds (Baldurdash) -> No Restrictions (Baldurdash)

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1170 // Bonus Merchants (Baldurdash)

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1180 // Female Edwina

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2090 // Change Experience Point Cap -> Remove Experience Cap

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2100 // Allow Thieving and Stealth in Heavy Armor

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2110 // Alter Item Descriptions for 'Stealth and Thieving Abilities in Heavy Armor' Component

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2120 // Allow Arcane Spellcasting in Heavy Armor

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2130 // Alter Item Descriptions for 'Allow Arcane Spellcasting in Armor' Component

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2140 // Expanded Dual-Class Options

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2150 // Wear Multiple Protection Items -> P&P Restrictions

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2160 // Alter Weapon Proficiency System -> Rebalanced Weapon Proficiencies

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2170 // Cast Spells from Scrolls (and Other Items) at Character Level

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2200 // Multi-Class Grand Mastery (Weimer)

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2210 // True Grand Mastery (Baldurdash)

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2241 // Un-Nerfed THAC0 Table -> Capped, Best THAC0 is -10 (PnP/BG1 Table)

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2250 // Un-Nerfed Sorcerer Spell Progression Table

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2261 // Alter Mage Spell Progression Table -> PnP Table

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2271 // Alter Bard Spell Progression Table -> PnP Table

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2281 // Alter Cleric Spell Progression Table -> PnP Table

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2291 // Alter Druid Spell and Level Progression Tables -> No Level Progression Changes, PnP Druid/Cleric Spell Table Only

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2300 // Triple-Class HLA Tables

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3000 // Higher HP on Level Up -> Maximum

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3012 // Maximum HP for NPCs (the bigg) -> For Party-Joinable NPCs Only

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3030 // Easy Spell Learning -> 100% Learn Spells

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3040 // Make Bags of Holding Bottomless

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3050 // Remove fatigue from restoration spells

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3060 // Remove "You Must Gather Your Party..." Sound (Weimer)

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3070 // Change Effect of Reputation on Store Prices -> Low Reputation Store Discount (Sabre)

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3080 // Unlimited Ammo Stacking

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3090 // Unlimited Gem and Jewelry Stacking

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3100 // Unlimited Potion Stacking

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3110 // Unlimited Scroll Stacking

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3121 // Happy Patch (Party NPCs do not fight or complain about reputation) -> NPCs can be angry about reputation but never leave (Salk)

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3125 // Neutral Characters Make Happy Comments at Mid-Range Reputation

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3150 // Turn Off The Hideous Cloak-of-Mirroring and Spell-Trap Animation

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3160 // Keep Drizzt's Loot, Disable Malchor Harpell

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3170 // No Drow Avatars On Party In Underdark

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3179 // Romance Cheats -> No Racial Requirements for Romance

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4000 // Adjust Evil joinable NPC reaction rolls

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4010 // Improved Fate Spirit Summoning

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4020 // ToB-Style NPCs

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4031 // Consistent Stats: Edwin -> Use BG2 Values

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4041 // Consistent Stats: Jaheira -> Use BG2 Values

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4050 // Change Jaheira to Neutral Good

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4061 // Consistent Stats: Minsc -> Use BG2 Values

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4071 // Consistent Stats: Viconia -> Use BG2 Values

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4080 // Make Khalid a Fighter-Mage (Domi)

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4090 // Make Montaron an Assassin (Andyr)

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4100 // Change Korgan to Neutral Evil

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // General AI Improvements

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Creature & Area Improvements -> All Creature & Area Improvements

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Creature & Area Improvements -> All Creature Improvements

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Creature & Area Improvements -> Boss Improvements Only

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #4 // Alternative Harper/Xzar Plot

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #5 // Extended Reynald Sequence

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #6 // Intrigue In The Copper Coronet

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #7 // Rahul Kanakia's Potion Quest

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #8 // Revised Hell Trials

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #9 // Improved Oasis II -> IO2 Dialogue & Combat Enhancement

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #11 // Saving Sanik In Brynnlaw

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #12 // Burglary Of The Bookkeeper

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #13 // New Fate For The Dryads' Acorns

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #14 // The Tragedy Of Besamen

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #15 // Further Slaver Involvement

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #16 // Sending The Solamnic Knights Home

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #17 // Nazariel The Lich

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #18 // Reward Negotiation

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #19 // Infernal Thievery

~SETUP-VALHORN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Improved Horns of Valhalla v1.2

~NPC_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Anomen

~NPC_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Cernd

~NPC_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Nalia

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #0 // NPC Kit Pack

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #1 // Anomen Gains Helm Kit on Passing Knighthood Test

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #2 // Anomen Gains Berserker Kit on Failing Knighthood Test

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #3 // Prevent CN Anomen Gaining a Holy Symbol

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #4 // Add Red Wizard to Edwin's Kit Description

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #5 // Give Imoen Adventurer Kit

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #11 // Give Imoen Invoker Kit] [Option 6 of 8] [Please do not install if you wish Imoen to have a different mage kit.

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #15 // Change Korgan's Kit to Battlerager

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #16 // Give Mazzy a Proper Truesword of Arvoreen Kit

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #17 // Change Minsc's Title to Rashemaar Ranger

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #18 // Give Nalia Adventurer Kit

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #28 // Give Sarevok a Proper Deathbringer Kit

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #29 // Improved Specialist Mage Descriptions

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #21 // Give Nalia Diviner Kit] [Option 3 of 8] [Please do not install if you wish Nalia to have a different mage kit.

~SETUP-CELESTIALS.TP2~ #0 #0 // PnP Celestials

~SETUP-REDEMPTION.TP2~ #0 #0 // Redemption 1.2.0 requires BG2:ToB:Ascension v1.4.xx

~SETUP-REDEMPTION.TP2~ #0 #1 // New Portrait for Irenicus - for the Ascension/Redemption part only (from the 'Jon with blue flame' poster by Bio)

~SETUP-REFINEMENTS.TP2~ #0 #10 // Revised High Level Abilities

~SETUP-REFINEMENTS.TP2~ #0 #30 // Shapeshifting fix -> Heal on shifting back to human (Default)

~SETUP-REFINEMENTS.TP2~ #0 #40 // Universal lesser mage robes

~SETUP-REFINEMENTS.TP2~ #0 #50 // Sword Angel - New Fighter Kit

~SETUP-REFINEMENTS.TP2~ #0 #73 // Revised Armors & Shields. -> Update the descriptions.

~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #0 // Sylvan Mystic Kit, by Polar Bear

~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #1 // Blade Master Kit, by Drizzt1180

~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #2 // Death Knight Kit, by Drizzt1180

~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #3 // Wushi Ninja Kit, by Drizzt1180

~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #4 // Creslyn's BG2 Item Pack

~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #5 // Archer of Sylvanus, by Drizzt1180

~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #6 // Arcane Fist, by Drizzt1180

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Kidnapping of Boo by Cliffette

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Suna Seni/Valygar Relationship

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Kalah and What He Was Promised

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #3 // "Cat and Mouse" (Bodhi hunts you in Spellhold) by Ghreyfain

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Gorje Hilldark and the Extended Illithium Quest

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #5 // The Pai'Na/Spider's Bane Quest

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #6 // Restored Crooked Crane Inn

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #7 // Restored Encounters

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #8 // Artemis Entreri in Bodhi's Lair

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Corrected "Xzar's Creations"

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #11 // Gorf the Squisher Fix, by Gebhard Blucher

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Item Restorations

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #13 // Yoshimo's Original Portrait

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #14 // Anomen's Original Portrait

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #15 // NPC Portrait Restorations

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #16 // Corrected BAMs and Scripts

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Corrected Character Names and Biographies

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #18 // Restored Minor Dialogs

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #19 // Restored Bhaalspawn Powers, by David Gaider

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #20 // Extended ToB Item Descriptions

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Throne of Bhaal Minor Restorations

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #22 // Justifier Kit

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #23 // Feralan Kit

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #24 // Sarevok's Remorse

~SETUP-ITEMUPGRADE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Shadows Of Amn Item Upgrades

~SETUP-ITEMUPGRADE.TP2~ #0 #1 // Throne Of Bhaal Item Upgrades

~SETUP-SOLAUFEIN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Solaufein Romance for Baldur's Gate II (SoA & ToB)

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Improved Ilyich (requires ToB)

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Ritual (requires ToB)

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #2 // Improved TorGal and De'Arnisse Keep

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #3 // Improved Sahuagin City

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #4 // Improved Bodhi

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #5 // Improved Irenicus

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #6 // Improved Guarded Compound in the Temple District

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #7 // Improved Twisted Rune

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #8 // "Kuroisan", the Acid Kensai

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #9 // "Red Badge" Poison-Based Encounter

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #10 // Gebhard Blucher's Improved Mae'Var

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #11 // Gebhard Blucher's Lich in the Docks

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #12 // Gebhard Blucher's Improved Demon Knights

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #13 // Kensai Ryu's Tougher Kangaxx and Guardians

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #14 // Kensai Ryu's Gnome Fighter/Illusionist in the Docks

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #15 // Kensai Ryu's Improved Crypt King

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #16 // Ishan's "Always Toughest Random Spawns in Dungeons"

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #17 // Gebhard Blucher's Random City Encounters

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #18 // Kensai Ryu's Random Wilderness Encounters

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #19 // Improved Undead

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #20 // Improved Golems

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #21 // Gebhard Blucher's Improved Mind Flayers

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #22 // Smarter Dragons in SoA

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #23 // Smarter Beholders

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #24 // Kensai Ryu's Smarter Vampires

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #25 // Slightly Smarter Mages and Liches

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #26 // Fighter-Class Archer Kit

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #27 // Anti-Paladin Kit

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #28 // Göran Rimén's Improved Nymphs

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #29 // Kensai Ryu's Improved Copper Coronet

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #31 // Mike Barnes' Improved Small Teeth Pass

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #32 // Mike Barnes' Improved North Forest

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #33 // Mike Barnes' Marching Mountains

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #34 // Slightly Tougher Demons

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #35 // Tougher Druid Grove

~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #36 // Tougher Fire Giants

~SETUP-UNDERREP.TP2~ #0 #0 // Underrepresented Items From Icewind Dale 2

~SETUP-VALEN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Valen

~SETUP-VALEN.TP2~ #0 #10 // Give More Creatures Protection From Level Drain & Undead

~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Finishable Kagain caravan quest

~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #0 #11 // Altered spawns -> TuTu-style levelled spawns

~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #0 #16 // Remove item shattering

~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #0 #18 // Salk's Pen-and-Paper ruleset corrections

~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #0 #19 // Import all NPCs into Shadow of Amn

~SETUP-GOO.TP2~ #0 #0 // Goo the Disembodied Floating Eyeball

~SETUP-FADE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Fade: An NPC for Baldur's Gate II

~SETUP-ERINSOUNDSET.TP2~ #0 #0 // Erin Soundset for BGII

~TXTMUSIC/TXTMUSIC.TP2~ #0 #0 // Restored Textscreen Music for BG1TuTu, EasyTutu, and BGT-WeiDU

~SETUP-GUI.TP2~ #0 #2 // Game Graphical User Interface (GUI) -> "Baldur's Gate Trilogy" (Elminster wielding staff)"

~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #2 // Unique weapons (bolas and katars)

~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #3 // Throwing Spears

~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #4 // Wizard Slayer kit MR bonus (8% + 4%/level)

~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #5 // Priest of Oron Kit (WARNING: Only 9 priests kits are possible at any one time, including BioWare defaults.)

~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #6 // Priest of Lahan-Riyashal Kit (WARNING: Only 9 priests kits are possible at any one time, including BioWare defaults.)

~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #7 // Priest of Thieron Kit (WARNING: Only 9 priests kits are possible at any one time, including BioWare defaults.)

~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #8 // Priest of Cathoun Kit (WARNING: Only 9 priests kits are possible at any one time, including BioWare defaults.)

~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #9 // Priest of Yathar Kit (WARNING: Only 9 priests kits are possible at any one time, including BioWare defaults.)

~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #10 // Priest of Uulix Kit (WARNING: Only 9 priests kits are possible at any one time, including BioWare defaults.)

~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #11 // Pit Fighter Kit

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Correct various errors on race, class etc

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #2 // Make Protection from Normal Missiles block magical missiles

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #4 // Re-introduce potions of extra-healing

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #5 // Faster Bears

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #7 // Easier party NPC management: allow NPC pairs separation, NPCs go to inns

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #10 // Move NPCs to more convenient locations

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #21 // Smarter general AI

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #22 // Better calls for help

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #23 // Potions for NPCs

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #24 // Improved deployment for parties of assassins

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #32 // Smarter priests

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #33 // Priests pre-cast defensive spells

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #34 // Big Picture scripting compatibility

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #35 // Smarter deployment

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #37 // Dark Side-based kobold upgrade

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #38 // Smarter sirines and dryads

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #39 // Slightly harder carrion crawlers

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #40 // Smarter basilisks

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #41 // Improved doppelgangers

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #42 // Tougher Black Talons and Iron Throne guards

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #43 // Relocated bounty hunters

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #44 // Improved Ulcaster

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #45 // Improved Balduran's Isle

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #46 // Improved Durlag's Tower

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #47 // Improved Demon Cultists

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #48 // Improved miscellaneous encounters

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #49 // Tougher chapter-two end battle

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #50 // Tougher chapter-three end battle

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #51 // Tougher chapter-four end battle

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #52 // Tougher chapter-five end battle

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #53 // Tougher chapter-six end battle

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #54 // Improved final battle

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #55 // Skip Candlekeep

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #57 // Remove blur effect from displacer cloak

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #58 // Stackable ankheg shells and winterwolf pelts

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #59 // Move Boo out of quick access and into Minsc's pack

~SETUP-SCSBGT.TP2~ #0 #60 // Ease-of-use player AI

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #0 // The BG1 NPC Project: Required Modifications for v12

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #1 // The BG1 NPC Project: Banters, Quests, and Interjections

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #2 // The BG1 NPC Project: Give Edwin his BG2 portrait.

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #3 // The BG1 NPC Project: Give Imoen her BG2 portrait.

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #4 // The BG1 NPC Project: Give Jaheira her BG2 portrait.

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #5 // The BG1 NPC Project: Give Minsc his BG2 portrait.

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #6 // The BG1 NPC Project: Give Viconia her BG2 portrait.

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #7 // The BG1 NPC Project: Add Non-Joinable NPC portraits to quests and dialogues

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #9 // The BG1 NPC Project: Dynaheir's Romance Core (teen content)

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #20 // Romance Timers -> Dynaheir's Romance Speed (standard: 1 hour)

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #54 // Jason Compton's Accelerated Banter Script.

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #55 // The BG1 NPC Project: Make Shar-Teel Unkillable until In Party

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #200 // The BG1 NPC Project: Player-Initiated Dialogues

~BG1NPCMUSIC/BG1NPCMUSIC.TP2~ #0 #0 // The BG1 NPC Project Music Pack

~BG1NPC_PORTRAIT_PACK/BG1NPC_PORTRAIT_PACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Copy all portraits for use by player characters

~BG1NPC_PORTRAIT_PACK/BG1NPC_PORTRAIT_PACK.TP2~ #0 #7 // Alternate Coran Portrait -> Alternate by Melisah

~BG1NPC_PORTRAIT_PACK/BG1NPC_PORTRAIT_PACK.TP2~ #0 #8 // Alternate Dynaheir Portrait -> Alternate #1 by Amok

~BG1NPC_PORTRAIT_PACK/BG1NPC_PORTRAIT_PACK.TP2~ #0 #13 // Alternate Faldorn Portrait: by XVIII

~BG1NPC_PORTRAIT_PACK/BG1NPC_PORTRAIT_PACK.TP2~ #0 #19 // Alternate Kivan Portrait: BioWare edit by XVIII

~BG1NPC_PORTRAIT_PACK/BG1NPC_PORTRAIT_PACK.TP2~ #0 #23 // Alternate Safana Portrait: BioWare edit by XVIII

// Recently Uninstalled: ~BG1NPC_PORTRAIT_PACK/BG1NPC_PORTRAIT_PACK.TP2~ #0 #27 // Alternate Viconia Portrait: BioWare edit by XVIII

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Guest Manwe

It appears that the Thac0 table for sorcerers and monks are nonexistent in the Thac0 2da file. Could this be the problem?

 

-Manwe

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Guest Manwe

Umm... I just had a lightbulb moment. The probably reason for the nonexistence of monks and sorcerers is probably because this is a BG1 mod... bummer.

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No, sorcerers get the mage and monks the fighter THAC0s. This mod is intended for the BG2 engine (which covers BG2, BGT and Tutu). The problem seems to be the PnP THAC0 table itself. I managed to replicate the issue with someone else's saved game and only that component installed. Although 2nd edition allowed you to go up to (or down to, if you will) -10, apparently the game engine can't handle it. According to the IESDP, the valid values are 1-25 (though I think 0 is also valid). So, er... don't use the PnP/BG1 THAC0 table. Whoever came up with the stupid idea for it should be flogged. The Blucher table is the same, it just stops at zero.

 

Being as how you have Tweaks installed so early (tsk, tsk), yes, WeiDU will uninstall the buttload of mods you currently have after it. But it should be smart enough to do that and reinstall without too much issue. Unfortunately, mere uninstallation won't fix your saved game. If you want to keep using that, you may have to Shadowkeep your chars back to the THAC0 values they should have (the table linked above might help).

 

@CamDawg - please remove this component from Tweaks. Thank you and goodnight.

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Guest Manwe

Hey,

 

Thanks Miloch. Will just altering the .2da table with NearInfinity fix the problem or are there other aspects of the game that will be affected?

 

-Manwe

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In theory, you could copy BG2_Tweaks\2da\THAC0.2DA to your override folder manually to fix it going forward (this is the Blucher table - thac0_pnp.2da is the dodgy one). But you'd still have to fix your saved game with NI or Shadowkeeper or whatever.

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Every time the monk gets an "enchantment bonus" applied to his fist, his unarmed thac0 and damage improves by that bonus as well. That could be the problem.
Not sure... I've only heard it reported for monks and sorcerers so far though. Obviously, the engine can interpret negative THAC0s... you could have a THAC0 of 1 and a +3 sword or whatever. So I'm not sure if there's a cutoff or if it just has a problem with the base THAC0 with certain classes. It'd be great to know more about this stat.
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