Otherwisely

2 hours ago, JediMindTrix said:

There is at least one dialog that still refers to a female PC as male, it's one of the earlier lovetalks (want to say it's within the first 8 ). I'm sorry I lost my note on which one it was.
 

Additionally, I think it'd be more player friendly if there was at least one option that didn't involve being negative here: https://ibb.co/9vsbT7V

Thanks for the feedback! I’ll try to find and fix the gender issue soon. 

For the other matter, there is a third and friendlier option that appears, but only if you didn’t skip LT31 (where Viconia explains her refusal to sacrifice a child). If you didn’t skip that dialogue, let me know and I’ll double-check the dialogue triggers. Regardless, I’ll add in another friendly option for people who did skip it. 

On 3/21/2024 at 6:59 PM, Connelly said:

I think I might have found an issue. Viconia was just stopping after being ordered to move or attack (dialogues and spellcasting were fine). After doing a change-log on Viconia.bcs, I started checking each change of the file until I got to this mod. After some tweaking, I found that eliminating every line and block of code referencing Hexxat or Rasaad solved the issue. But the similar lines referencing Anomen didn't cause the problem. That said, I doubt

It just so happens that I had Hexxat and Rasaad disabled through Convenient EE NPCs. I suspect that might be the cause, though I don't know how that would cause any trouble (your code checking for them in a way that trips if they don't exist in game?).

I tried replicating the issue, but I haven't had any success. Just to check off a few boxes here: did the problem begin right after recruiting Viconia or later on in the game? If it was later, did it seem to start after a particular event?

It's possible it's a weird interaction with a number of mods, depending on what you have installed.

16 hours ago, Connelly said:

I think I might have found an issue. Viconia was just stopping after being ordered to move or attack (dialogues and spellcasting were fine). After doing a change-log on Viconia.bcs, I started checking each change of the file until I got to this mod. After some tweaking, I found that eliminating every line and block of code referencing Hexxat or Rasaad solved the issue. But the similar lines referencing Anomen didn't cause the problem. That said, I doubt

It just so happens that I had Hexxat and Rasaad disabled through Convenient EE NPCs. I suspect that might be the cause, though I don't know how that would cause any trouble (your code checking for them in a way that trips if they don't exist in game?).

I took a look at the code for both my mod and convenient npcs and didn't see anything that would cause the issue you're describing. Over the weekend I'll install both mods and try to replicate the problem and see if I can figure out the cause from there.

Thank you for letting me know!

1 hour ago, Guest Respite said:

Finally! As a female player and huge fan of Viconia, I was disappointed back in the day when the concept of a same-sex Viconia romance was first floated around and never got off the ground. I was shocked, but so SO happy someone actually did it! 

Quick question: Romance conflicts are such a guilty pleasure of mine. I know it says above that Vicci conflicts with Hexxat now, but what about the male romance options for those of us who would pursue both? Should I expect any juicy new lines between her and Anomen? Or even the EE guys?

Glad to be of service! Back when I thought I was a straight woman, I used console commands to romance Viconia with a female PC. I pretended that her calling me a man was her being ironic lol.

Viconia has conflicts with Anomen and Rasaad as well. I styled the romance conflicts after which 'generation' the character came from. EE characters usually pull CHARNAME aside and talk to them about things, so that's what I did with Hexxat and Rasaad here. Hexxat has a special secondary conflict, though. If you get both flirty Hexxat/Viccy banters, then Viconia will start a dialogue saying that things need to be cleared up between the three of you. (No throuple option, unfortunately.) It'll be a somewhat rare trigger, but I put it in for a bit of fun.

For Anomen, he follows the tradition of breaking into a romance dialogue. Viconia breaks into one of his as well. I may add more romance conflicts for him since his trigger relatively early in their respective romances. There's also a Viconia/Anomen banter that usually only triggers for men romancing her. It's been changed to trigger if you're romancing Viconia (but not Anomen) and has different dialogue for a female PC.

I hope you enjoy the mod! If you have any thoughts on it (including things that you didn't like) please let me know!

1.0.6 is up--compatibility issues with IEP Banters Extended have been resolved.

1 hour ago, Connelly said:

Heads up, in the installer this component goes by "Viconia Romance Expanded not installed", and gives this error:

[Romance_Expanded\crossmod\OWIEPJAH.baf] PARSE ERROR at line 13 column 1-13
Near Text: %BG2_VAR%
        syntax error

It looks like the IEP extended banters patch isn't functioning properly even though it used to work just fine. I'm going to keep working at it. Until then, you can only install one of the two mods.

ETA: I'm removing the IEP 'patch' temporarily since it's causing issues. You can now have both mods installed but there may be a couple of banters that don't quite make sense.

32 minutes ago, Connelly said:

Heads up, in the installer this component goes by "Viconia Romance Expanded not installed", and gives this error:

[Romance_Expanded\crossmod\OWIEPJAH.baf] PARSE ERROR at line 13 column 1-13
Near Text: %BG2_VAR%
        syntax error

Dang it, I thought I had tested everything. I'll give it a quick look. Thanks for letting me know!

Version 1.0.5 is out with a few content updates:

• Viconia's LT9: Viconia's dialogue will change to reflect if she actually told the story about the farmer.
• Viconia's LT57: If present, Imoen may interject. If you have defeated Bodhi but Viconia was NOT turned into a vampire (due to her romance not having sufficiently progressed), Viconia's dialogue will now reflect this.
• Hexxat and Viconia have a new romance conflict.
• If playing as an elf, Viconia will have a new dialogue upon entering Suldanessellar.
• New component: Alternate Audio. This will remove or abridge audio in Viconia's romance to prevent misgendering CHARNAME.
• Various minor corrections.

Version 1.0.1 is up! It provides compatibility patches for Will of the Wisps, Viconia Friendship, and Unfinished Business (specifically the Pai'na component). To take advantage of these patches be sure to install Romance Expanded after the aforementioned mods.

ETA: v1.0.2 is up now as well--I thought it would take much longer to complete. The mod is now EET-compatible and has a patch for IEP Extended Banters.

54 minutes ago, Isewein said:

Congrats! I've been toying with this idea for a long time, seeing as most of the in-game "romance" dialogue is actually not all that sexual in nature and could easily be rewritten for regular companionship. Albeit this goes for Viconia less so than the others, which leads me to ask: Are you planning something like this for Anomen and Jaheira as well? I had done the latter at some point, but this was before I knew anything of proper modding, so I realised too late that it wasn't going to be very compatible to use NearInfinity for it, basing the code on an existing megamod installation...

As for the compatibility question: From when I looked into this for these purposes back in the day, I can safely say that the Viconia Friendship mod (as opposed to other friendships which are usually compatible with their respective romances) is essentially a stripped-down version of the vanilla romance, with some expanded or new talks but mostly following a structure of similar events (handmaiden attack etc.), so I wager that it'd be conceptually incompatible with this romance mod.

Jaheira is next on the list once I finish Viconia's TOB romance (and Aerie is next after her). I'm not currently planning on doing Anomen's romance simply because I personally don't like him much and as a result I don't think I could do his romance proper justice. 

As for Viconia Friendship: I took a look at it over the weekend and it has some clever coding that allows you to pick up her friendship after a breakup without having repeat talks. The only problem is that her friendship automatically begins if you're playing as female or as an elf, so you'd end up with a lot of duplicate talks. I wrote a quick patch to solve this so it'll run as intended. There are a couple of other things I'm working on, but there should be an update in the next couple of days.

58 minutes ago, Connelly said:

Huh, colour me curious, if nothing else because I never thought nobody ever would try to expand the vanilla romances themselves, without getting into banters and PIDs. Ace galpals? I can already see a few getting interested.

Speaking of banters, when would you say we'd have to install this? Does it matter whether after or before things like banter packs (ie IEP) and other character expansions (ie Viconia Friendship)?

I haven’t looked extensively at the codes for IEP and Viccy friendship, so I’m going to tentatively recommend installing after them. Only two banters were changed with this mod: Viccy’s flirty banter with Anomen and her second banter with Jaheira, the latter of which only potentially changes if you’re playing as a half-elf.

I’m hoping to spend this weekend taking a closer look at compatibility with a few mods and possibly making patches if necessary.

I hope you enjoy the mod! Let me know your thoughts, as I’m open to feedback. 

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Viconia Romance Expanded is the first in a series of planned mods that carefully expand the original BG2 romances. The mod enables the romance for all races and genders and has a unique romance path for female CHARNAMES.  Learn how drow society treats same-sex relationships, navigate new relationship obstacles, and fall in love all over again!

Version: 1.0.6

Download at Github

Viconia Romance Features

Subcomponent: Alternate Audio (Viconia)
This option will replace audio that may refer to CHARNAME's gender incorrectly, either shortening the audio or removing it entirely. Please note that even without this component installed, some female-only dialogue already has altered audio.

The mod is has been completed for SOA and an update for TOB is in progress.

Phaere Expanded
This option allows female CHARNAMEs to flirt and sleep with Phaere. Includes new reactivity from Anomen, Rasaad, and Hexxat. Adds dialogue options to Aerie's reaction that can prevent the romance from breaking. Please be aware that this component does not remove the coercive elements original to Phaere's dialogue.

Unlock Other Romances
Provided for the sake of convenience, this component removes romance restrictions on characters who have not yet been expanded. This includes Jaheira, Aerie, Anomen, Rasaad, and Neera. Aside from a few instances here and there, their dialogue remains untouched and may refer to the player character incorrectly (e.g. pronouns).

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Compatibility
This mod was designed to work specifically with BG2:EE and may not be compatible with the original release of BG2. The mod is compatible with EET.

This mod should be compatible with other WeiDU mods. However, some mods may contradict specific elements of this mod. For example, other mods may reference a female CHARNAME as male, due to Viconia's unmodded romance being locked to males. Viconia may also refer to half-elf NPCs with less-than-charitable terms even if she has promised a half-elf CHARNAME to no longer do so. Compatibility patches for such instances are planned for future versions of this mod. If you encounter any major mod conflicts, please leave a comment here.

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Credits
Otherwisely — writing and coding
Kiiratam — beta reading, feedback/suggestions, support

Tools used in creation: Notepad++, WeiDu, IESDP, Larenil’s drow dictionary, Branwen for BG2

Thank you to the greater BG2 modding community and the wonderful guides and resources that have been developed in the 20+ years since this game was first released.

This mod is shared under a Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 license. Please feel free to make crossmod content in relation to this mod and reach out if you have any questions while doing so.

40 minutes ago, jmerry said:

Well, your second block should definitely have InParty(Myself) as an additional condition; if you dismissed him after the first block ran but before the second (which, since they won't run on the same pass through that script, is at least possible), you'd stutter-bug him with forced dialogue that didn't change the conditions for its activation.

Wait, APPEND? Oh, that's your problem. That command simply appends your BAF script to the BCS file. Which makes that part of the file complete nonsense; here's what last few lines of rasaad.bcs look like before mods:

36OB
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ""OB
OB
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ""OB
OB
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ""OB
0 0 0 0 0"" "" AC
RE
RS
CR
SC

BCS and BAF are not the same formats. You need to compile the BAF code as you add it in, not just stick it on unmodified. Use EXTEND_BOTTOM instead, which compiles the code as it adds it in.

Now, why did your first block appear to work? That, most likely, is an indication, that you didn't actually use "OWR_phaere" in the conditions for the addition you made to the dialogue file. You might need to look closer at that part too.

You're a hero, jmerry! I changed APPEND to EXTEND_BOTTOM and suddenly everyone's very chatty. I also added InParty(Myself) and fixed something in the dialogue file so it's all triggering properly. Thank you a bunch, I was getting very frustrated.

I'm a novice modder and my first mod is about 80% complete but I'm having an issue during testing. There are a few cases where a companion is supposed to speak to the player after certain events, but either this doesn't trigger at all or it only triggers if the companion is force-talked. I've combed through a bunch of scripts from the game itself and from other modders and it seems like it should be working, but clearly I'm missing something. 

For example:

IF
InParty(Myself)
OR(2)
Global("PhaereInnuendo","GLOBAL",2)
Global("PhaereInnuendo","GLOBAL",3)
OR(2)
Global("RasaadRomanceActive","GLOBAL",1)
Global("RasaadRomanceActive","GLOBAL",2)
Global("OWR_phaere","GLOBAL",0)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
SetGlobal("OWR_phaere","GLOBAL",1)
END

IF
Global("OWR_phaere","GLOBAL",1)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
StartDialogueNoSet(Player1)
END

Basically: After visiting Phaere's chambers, a romanced Rasaad should initiate a dialogue. (This is something that can occur within the scope of the mod.) The first block seems to be functioning as the dialogue will trigger if I force-talk Rasaad.

In case it's relevant, this script is in the TP2 as: APPEND ~RASAAD.BCS~ ~OW#PHRAS.BAF~

Any help would be appreciated!

Hi! I'm new to modding in BG2 and I have a couple of dialogue checks that I can't quite figure out how to make. Specifically, I need one for if Imoen has been rescued and one for if Bodhi has been slain. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

ETA: Looking through EEKeeper if found the variables BODHIDEAD and SPRITE_IS_DEADC6BODHI, which seem pretty self-explanatory. I'm still looking for some sort of variable for Imoen, though.

Thank you! I got things resolved at BWL too so I’m all good to go!

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