WVN777 Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I've heard that Protection from Evil is supposed to repel (most) enemy demons (by making you non-targetable). Is that correct? I'm asking because so far, I have not met one enemy demon that was bothered by it, they all head straight for us. Party AI is Off, and no one has attacked the fiend before it attacks us. (The spell does work on any demon that we summon, such as with Cacofiend.) I have the BG2 Fixpack v9, Shards of Ice v5, Unfinished Business v19, BG2 Tweaks v9, and aTweaks v3.21 (including PnP Fiends), but not Sword Coast Stratagems II, nor Spell Revisions. Assuming that something has been changed along the way, does anyone know where this might have crept in, given this setup, what might be done about it, or will this be the standard going forward? Here's my WeiDU log. Please advise, and thanks ! // Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods // The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod // ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name [ : Version] ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // BG2 Fixpack - Core Fixes: v9.01 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #1000 // BG2 Fixpack - Game Text Update -> GTU Light (by Wisp): v9.01 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // BETA Core Fixes (please check the readme!): v9.01 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #100 // Party Gets XP for Sending Keldorn to Reconcile With Maria: v9.01 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #101 // Improved Spell Animations: v9.01 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #104 // Ghreyfain's Holy Symbol Fixes: v9.01 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #106 // Giants Receive Penalties When Attacking Halflings, Dwarves, and Gnomes: v9.01 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #107 // Remove Dual-Classing Restriction from Archers and Stalkers: v9.01 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #108 // Remove Second Attribute Bonus for Evil Path in Wrath Hell Trial: v9.01 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #109 // Corrected Summoned Demon Behavior: v9.01 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #110 // Additional Script Fixes: v9.01 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #111 // Bard Song Fixes: v9.01 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #113 // Additional Alignment Fixes: v9.01 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #114 // Change Free Action to Protect Against Stun: v9.01 ~EMAD/SETUP-EMAD.TP2~ #0 #0 // A Z-rated Adventure - an IM4 Non-Entry: v6 ~EMAD/SETUP-EMAD.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Promise of a Troll: v6 ~EMAD/SETUP-EMAD.TP2~ #0 #2 // A Bhaalspawn's Best Friend: v6 ~EMAD/SETUP-EMAD.TP2~ #0 #3 // Under Her Spell: v6 ~EMAD/SETUP-EMAD.TP2~ #0 #4 // Forgery: v6 ~EMAD/SETUP-EMAD.TP2~ #0 #5 // Character Medley: v6 ~SETUP RGENIE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ribald's Genie ~CLIFFKEY/SETUP-CLIFFKEY.TP2~ #0 #1 // A Mod for the Orderly - Add a Keyring to Faerun! See readme for more details about the choices below. -> Consistency Plus version: v4 ~SHARDSOFICE/SETUP-SHARDSOFICE.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Price Of Friendship: v5 ~SHARDSOFICE/SETUP-SHARDSOFICE.TP2~ #0 #1 // Some of My Best Friends Are Slimes: v5 ~SHARDSOFICE/SETUP-SHARDSOFICE.TP2~ #0 #2 // You Could Restore the Summon Cow Spell, But Why?: v5 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Kidnapping of Boo by Cliffette: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Kalah and What He Was Promised: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Gorje Hilldark and the Extended Illithium Quest: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #5 // The Pai'Na/Spider's Bane Quest: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #6 // Restored Crooked Crane Inn: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #7 // Restored Encounters: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #8 // Artemis Entreri in Bodhi's Lair: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Corrected "Xzar's Creations": v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #10 // Restored Hell Minions, by SimDing0: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Item Restorations: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #15 // NPC Portrait Restorations: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #16 // Corrected BAMs and Scripts: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Corrected Character Names and Biographies: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #18 // Restored Minor Dialogs: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #19 // Restored Bhaalspawn Powers, by David Gaider: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #20 // Extended ToB Item Descriptions: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Throne of Bhaal Minor Restorations: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #24 // Sarevok's Remorse: v19 ~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Aerie Flirt Pack For SOA ~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #2 // Aerie Flirt Pack For TOB ~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #4 // Jaheira Flirt Pack for SOA ~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #6 // Jaheira Flirt Pack for TOB ~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #8 // Viconia Flirt Pack for SOA ~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #10 // Viconia Flirt Pack for TOB ~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #12 // Anomen Flirt Pack for SOA ~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #14 // Anomen Flirt Pack for TOB ~G3ANNIVERSARY/SETUP-G3ANNIVERSARY.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Gibberlings Three Anniversary Mod: v7 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for Magical Traps (Ardanis/GeN1e): v9 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2340 // Remove Summoning Cap for Celestials (Ardanis/GeN1e): v9 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3001 // Higher HP on Level Up -> NWN Style: v9 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3031 // Easy Spell Learning -> 100% Learn Spells and No Maximum Cap: v9 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3060 // Remove "You Must Gather Your Party..." Sound (Weimer): v9 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3070 // Change Effect of Reputation on Store Prices -> Low Reputation Store Discount (Sabre): v9 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3080 // Unlimited Ammo Stacking: v9 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3090 // Unlimited Gem and Jewelry Stacking: v9 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3100 // Unlimited Potion Stacking: v9 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3110 // Unlimited Scroll Stacking: v9 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3121 // Happy Patch (Party NPCs do not complain about reputation) -> NPCs can be angry about reputation but never leave (Salk): v9 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3123 // NPCs don't fight: v9 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3124 // Stop Haer'Dalis-Aerie romance from starting: v9 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3125 // Neutral Characters Make Happy Comments at Mid-Range Reputation: v9 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3150 // Turn Off The Hideous Cloak-of-Mirroring, 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#0 #150 // PnP Fiends: v3.21 ~ATWEAKS/SETUP-ATWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #155 // Revised Fiend summoning: v3.21 ~ATWEAKS/SETUP-ATWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #200 // Allow Breach to take down Stoneskin effects applied by items: v3.21 ~ATWEAKS/SETUP-ATWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #201 // Instant casting for warrior innates: v3.21 ~ATWEAKS/SETUP-ATWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #202 // Revised Bhaalpowers -> Enhance the Bhaalpowers and standardize their casting time: v3.21 ~ATWEAKS/SETUP-ATWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #218 // Regain Bhaalpowers in ToB: v3.21 ~ATWEAKS/SETUP-ATWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #203 // Make druidic shapeshifting uninterruptable: v3.21 ~ATWEAKS/SETUP-ATWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #204 // Prevent Mislead clones from singing Bard songs: v3.21 ~ATWEAKS/SETUP-ATWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #205 // Prevent Project Image and Simulacrum clones from using quickslot items: v3.21 ~ATWEAKS/SETUP-ATWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #210 // Restore the Dispel Magic vulnerability to Nishruu and Hakeashars: v3.21 ~ATWEAKS/SETUP-ATWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #212 // Make alignment detection spells more accurate: v3.21 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~ATWEAKS/SETUP-ATWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #600 // Expanded temple services: v3.21 ~HAMMERS/SETUP-HAMMERS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Thrown Hammers: v2 ~HAMMERS/SETUP-HAMMERS.TP2~ #0 #25 // Normal throwing hammers: v2 ~HAMMERS/SETUP-HAMMERS.TP2~ #0 #35 // +1 throwing weapons: v2 ~HAMMERS/SETUP-HAMMERS.TP2~ #0 #50 // Additional magic items: v2 ~FREEACT/SETUP-FREEACT.TP2~ #0 #10 // PnP Free Action: v2 ~FREEACT/SETUP-FREEACT.TP2~ #0 #50 // Update spell and item descriptions: v2 ~LEVEL1NPCS/LEVEL1NPCS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Nythrun's Level 1 NPCs: List party-joinable NPCs (required to install any other components): v1.3 ~LEVEL1NPCS/LEVEL1NPCS.TP2~ #0 #1 // Tweak weapon proficiencies for some classes (a la Ashes of Embers and aVENGER's Rogue Rebalancing?: v1.3 ~LEVEL1NPCS/LEVEL1NPCS.TP2~ #0 #3 // Joinable NPCs more closely match the player character's experience?: v1.3 ~ATWEAKS/SETUP-ATWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #102 // Change Spiritual Hammer into a ranged force weapon: v3.21 ~SETUP-ALORA.TP2~ #0 #0 // Chosen of Mystra's Alora NPC Mod (Requires Throne of Bhaal) ~SAERILETH/SETUP-SAERILETH.TP2~ #0 #0 // Saerileth Romance Mod (BG2:SoA & TOB NPC) created by nethrin and Sillara: v15 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2100 // Allow Thieving and Stealth in Heavy Armor: v9 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2120 // Allow Arcane Spellcasting in Heavy Armor: v9
aVENGER_(RR) Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I've heard that Protection from Evil is supposed to repel (most) enemy demons (by making you non-targetable). Protection from Evil only prevents summoned fiends from attacking the protected character, it has no effect on non-summoned fiends. This is unmodded game behavior. aTweaks deliberately doesn't alter this since the protection from evil effect doesn't follow PnP rules in BG2. In PnP, Protection from Evil is merely supposed to prevent fiends from physically attacking the protected target though they'd still be free to harm it indirectly via spells. Also, if the protected character were to attack the fiend in melee, the protection would instantly wear off. In BG2, the effect makes the recipient invisible and impossible to target via spells by the creature he's protected from. This invisibility is not broken even if the recipient physically attacks the creature in question. Hence the aforementioned design decision.
WVN777 Posted October 24, 2011 Author Posted October 24, 2011 Wow, then there's a huge misstatement in a certain classic FAQ / walkthrough out there, in the section on Demons: "Find yourself fighting some mighty demon? Pit Fiend? Glabrezu? Well fear no more! Simply cast Protection from Evil on your party and they will ignore you! ... Most random (non quest related) demons won't see you, thus giving plenty of time to ambush them." I guess you can't believe everything you read, huh ? Thanks so much for the clarification!
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