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g3 is the home of the IESDP, so i'm hoping someone here can explain to me how lunumab.2da works. i realise that it's the table that controls when a class starts to get HLAs and how many per level they get; what i don't understand can best be shown by reproducing the table:

 

2DA V1.0
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           FIRST_LEVEL RATE       CHANGE_LEVEL NEW_RATE   
MAGE        18          1          99           1          
FIGHTER   	 20          1          99           1          
CLERIC      22          1          99           1          
THIEF     	 24          1          99           1          
BARD        24          1          99           1          
PALADIN   	 18          1          99           1          
DRUID     	 15          1          99           1          
RANGER      18          1          99           1          
FIGHTER_MAGE  14        1          99           1          
FIGHTER_CLERIC  41      1          99           1          
FIGHTER_THIEF  41       1          99           1          
FIGHTER_MAGE_THIEF 41          1          99           1          
MAGE_THIEF  41          1          99           1          
CLERIC_MAGE  41         1          99           1          
CLERIC_THIEF  41        1          99           1          
FIGHTER_DRUID  41       1          99           1          
FIGHTER_MAGE_CLERIC 41         1          99           1          
CLERIC_RANGER  41       1          99           1          
SORCERER    18          1          99           1          
MONK        20          1          30           1          
MULTI2FIGHTER  14       1          99           1          
MULTI2MAGE  14          1          99           1          
MULTI2CLERIC  15        1          99           1          
MULTI2RANGER  13        1          99           1          
MULTI2DRUID  14         1          99           1          
MULTI2THIEF  17         1          99           1          
MULTI3FIGHTER  12       1          99           1          
MULTI3MAGE  13          1          99           1          
MULTI3THIEF  15         1          99           1          
MULTI3CLERIC  13        1          99           1

 

ok, looking specifically at the four starting at DRUID: druids get HLAs form level 15 - ie 3 mill XP, rangers at lvl 18 (3 mill XP), F/M at lvl 14 (3 mill as well), and then - what i don't understand - F/C at lvl 41. the next 9 multiclasses all kick in at lvl 41 as well - that's between 12 mill and 18 mill XP *before* they get HLAs. which can't be right, because i've seen them kick in for multiclasses at more or less the right time.

 

are these values all being overriden by the bottom 10 entries, which all start MULTI? and if so, if i'm a F/M/T, does this mean my HLAs kick in at lvl 12 (MUTLI3FIGHTER), lvl 13 (MULTI3MAGE) or lvl 15 (MULTI3THIEF)? i guess lvl 12, as if these MULTI values can override the crazy lvl 41s in the table, they can override other higher values, such as the lvl 13 or 15. yeah?

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It looks like the 41 is a flag to the game telling it that the levels at which the various classes can gain HLAs is not necessarily the same, so look below for the breakdown by individual class.

 

The Fighter and Mage in FIGHTER_MAGE both gain HLAs at level 14, so no need to specify the 41 flag.

 

Turns out that the Cleric and Mage in CLERIC_MAGE both gain HLAs at level 13, but the 41 flag's presence suggests that maybe that wasn't so at one point, or that the person editing the 2da simply forgot to update, or didn't see it.

 

Why 41? In an unmodded game of ToB, 40 is the maximum level, so 41 is a safe flag. They already use 99 as a flag that means "never".

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