Maximum HP on Level Up

[drake127]

Can you please tell me what is it? I have good idea what it does but I do not understand sense.

Why should be min_roll modified when there is nothing to be rolled?

 

COPY_EXISTING ~hpconbon.2da~ ~override~
 FOR (row = 3; row < 28; row = row + 1) BEGIN
   READ_2DA_ENTRY row 2 1 bonus
   PATCH_IF (bonus > 0) BEGIN
     SET_2DA_ENTRY row 3 1 bonus
   END
 END
 BUT_ONLY_IF_IT_CHANGES

[the bigg]

This means that non-fighter/paladin/ranger/whatever get full bonuses from CON, rather than the dimished +2 max.

[drake127]

This means that non-fighter/paladin/ranger/whatever get full bonuses from CON, rather than the dimished +2 max.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I don't think so - hpconbon.2da after patching:

         OTHER       WARRIOR     MIN_ROLL ...
1       -3          -3          1
2       -2          -2          1
(...)
14      0           0           1
15      1           1           1
16      2           2           2
17      2           3           3
18      2           4           4
19      2           5           5
20      2           5           5
21      2           6           6
(...)

As you can see it modifies MIN_ROLL colums rather than OTHER. I am unsure what min_roll exactly doing but I can presume it forces the dice to roll higher value than x. And it is redundant because there is nothing to roll after other parts of this component is installed.

[Idobek]

The MIN_ROLL column is the minimum roll for a warrior's CON bonus, I have altered this to equal this maximum roll. Therefore, only one value can be rolled: the maximum. The OTHER column is for nonwarrior classes, iirc this is not rolled but simply applied, no change is necessary (2 is the correct max and min value). If I am wrong about the function of this file please correct me.

[drake127]

The MIN_ROLL column is the minimum roll for a warrior's CON bonus, I have altered this to equal this maximum roll. Therefore, only one value can be rolled: the maximum. The OTHER column is for nonwarrior classes, iirc this is not rolled but simply applied, no change is necessary (2 is the correct max and min value). If I am wrong about the function of this file please correct me.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

CON bonus for both group of classes (2nd and 3rd column) is still same. You simpy get it when you level up.

As I said I am unsure about min_roll but I think it will force the game to roll more than x when rolling. e.g. warrior character with constitution 25 get 4-10 (min_roll column = 4) + 7 (warrior column) HP per level.

I am pretty sure your way is incorrect but I am unsure my way is right. In all cases there is no reason to modify hpconbon.2da.

Please look at my version of this http://files.sigil.cz/mods/EasyCoreRules.zip, it is similar but compatible with all IE games (excluding NWN).

[drake127]

Let's continue with barbarians (support and bugs) http://forums.blackwyrmlair.net/index.php?showtopic=1475

[Idobek]

Unfortunately I am allergic to links of that type.

[drake127]

Unfortunately I am allergic to links of that type.

? no idea what you mean. Content is much more important for me than place or "link of that type" so if you take care about this component please read it.

 

Edit: wow, I can lock or delete "my" topic

Edit2: Or you can just trust me and read http://files.sigil.cz/mods/EasyCoreRules.zip

[Idobek]

Okay, I understand what you're talking about now.

[drake127]

I just thought you should know about it.

[Idobek]

Huh. So, perhaps, if we leave hpwar.2da alone and set the MIN_ROLL column to 10 accross the board then Barbarian's will get max hp too--probably not though. I'll have to experiment.

[Idobek]

Cool, looks like that idea might work afterall.

[drake127]

Huh. So, perhaps, if we leave hpwar.2da alone and set the MIN_ROLL column to 10 accross the board then Barbarian's will get max hp too--probably not though. I'll have to experiment.

I tried it - they won't. I tried it many ways but finally I gave up. min_roll behave strange.

 

Your idea is logical but warriors after start of game (7th level) get 75 HPs (wrong), barbarians 70 (wrong) on core rules. Normal difficulty is better - warriors get 75 HPs (wrong) and barbarians 96 (good). Level-Up works except for core rules barbarians.