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Yovaneth

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Yovaneth

Yovaneth

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I think there is a fault in the IWD version of the Infinity Engine which is preventing the following blocks of code from operating correctly. This is supposed to be the IWD version of the BG2 thief hide'n'detect trick.

 

Summary:

1. This is a complete test script.

2. In its current layout it will operate once correctly; that is, the thief will keep running the Hide block until hidden and then run the FindTraps block. When the FindTraps timer times out, the thief runs the Hide block correctly but never executes the actual Hide() command.

3. If the Hide and FindTraps blocks are reversed and the Continue() command at the end of the actual Hide block is uncommented, again the script runs correctly once, but ever after locks into the FindTraps command.

 

I would be grateful for confirmation that there does appear to be a problem with this version of the IE when running this code. Either that, or I've really screwed up somewhere! :D:D

 

-Y-

 

 

//************************************************************************
//Pop off the timer initialisation so we can use GlobalTimerExpired
//*************************************************************************
IF
 Global("Initialise_timers","LOCALS",0)
THEN
 RESPONSE #100
   SetGlobalTimer("gh_Thief","LOCALS",0)
   SetGlobal("Initialise_timers","LOCALS",1)
   Continue()
END
// **********************************************************************
// *           Segment Name: gs_HideAndDetect.baf
// **********************************************************************

// * HIDE AND DETECT TRICK
// * [Allows a Thief character to be BOTH hidden and detecting Traps 90% of the time]
// * [Only done when >75%HP to avoid not getting healed by gs_HealOther]
// * Only a thief script will have this snippet so class test commented out

// * Enable/disable Hide'n'Detect
IF
 HotKey(H)
 Global("dai_SetHide","LOCALS",0)
THEN
 RESPONSE #100
   SetGlobal("dai_SetHide","LOCALS",1)
   FloatMessage(Myself,4188)    //Leaving shadows
END

// * FindTraps segment ***************
// * If not already detecting traps, and hidden, detect traps and start the timer
IF
 Global("dai_SetHide","LOCALS",0)
 ActionListEmpty()
 CombatCounter(0)                                    //and combat is over
//  OR(5)
//    ClassEx(Myself,CLERIC_THIEF)
//    ClassEx(Myself,FIGHTER_MAGE_THIEF)
//    ClassEx(Myself,FIGHTER_THIEF)
//    ClassEx(Myself,THIEF)
//    ClassEx(Myself,MAGE_THIEF)
 !ModalState(Myself,DETECTTRAPS)
//  ModalState(Myself,STEALTH)      //Bolloxed - definately bolloxed beyond use
 StateCheck(Myself,STATE_NOT_VISIBLE) //Used instead of ModalState
THEN
 RESPONSE #100
   FloatMessage(Myself,4927)                        //Find traps
   SetGlobalTimer("gh_Thief","LOCALS",25)
   SetGlobal("ys_test","LOCALS",0)         //Reset temp. testing flag
   FindTraps()
   Continue()
END


// * Hide segment ***************
// * If not already hidden, and I'm not damaged -> hide!
IF
 Global("dai_SetHide","LOCALS",0)
 ActionListEmpty()
 OR(2)
   CombatCounter(0)                                    //and combat is over
   GlobalTimerExpired("gh_Thief","LOCALS")
//  OR(5)
//    ClassEx(Myself,CLERIC_THIEF)
//    ClassEx(Myself,FIGHTER_MAGE_THIEF)
//    ClassEx(Myself,FIGHTER_THIEF)
//    ClassEx(Myself,THIEF)
//    ClassEx(Myself,MAGE_THIEF)
 !StateCheck(Myself,STATE_NOT_VISIBLE)  //and not invisible/impinvis/hiding
 HPPercentGT(Myself,75)
THEN
 RESPONSE #100
   FloatMessage(Myself,19928)                //I must hidemyself
   SetGlobal("ys_test","LOCALS",1)      //Temp. test flag to trigger the next block
   Continue()
END

//Separated from the above block just in case multiple commands are affecting the
//RESPONSE execution. Can be re-integrated if required
IF
 Global("ys_test","LOCALS",1)
THEN
 RESPONSE #100
   Hide()
//    Continue()
END

cirerrek

cirerrek

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Here is what I get with a similar code snippet

 

// **********************************************************************
// *           Segment Name: gs_HideAndDetect.baf
// **********************************************************************

// * HIDE AND DETECT TRICK
// * [Allows a Thief character to be BOTH hidden and detecting Traps 90% of the time]
// * [Only done when >75%HP to avoid not getting healed by gs_HealOther]

// * If not already detecting traps, and hidden, detect traps and start the timer
IF
 ActionListEmpty()
 CombatCounter(0)                              // and combat is over
 Or(5)
    ClassEx(Myself,THIEF)
    ClassEx(Myself,FIGHTER_THIEF)
    ClassEx(Myself,FIGHTER_MAGE_THIEF)
    ClassEx(Myself,MAGE_THIEF)
    ClassEx(Myself,CLERIC_THIEF)
 !ModalState(Myself,DETECTTRAPS)
 ModalState(Myself,STEALTH)
THEN
 RESPONSE #100
   FloatMessage(Myself,8945)   // say "Find Traps"
   StartTimer(25,21)
//    SetGlobalTimer("gh_Thief","LOCALS",18)      
   FindTraps()
END

// * If timer expired, and I'm not damaged -> hide!
IF
 ActionListEmpty()
 CombatCounter(0)                         // and combat is over
 TimerExpired(25)
//  GlobalTimerExpired("gh_Thief","LOCALS")
 HPPercentGT(Myself,75)
 CheckStatGT(Myself,50,STEALTH) // and I have a decent chance of success
THEN
 RESPONSE #100
   FloatMessage(Myself,19928)        // say "I must hide myself"
   Hide()
END

// * If not already hidden, and I'm not damaged -> hide!
IF
 ActionListEmpty()
 CombatCounter(0)                       // and combat is over
 Or(5)
    ClassEx(Myself,THIEF)
    ClassEx(Myself,FIGHTER_THIEF)
    ClassEx(Myself,FIGHTER_MAGE_THIEF)
    ClassEx(Myself,MAGE_THIEF)
    ClassEx(Myself,CLERIC_THIEF)
 !StateCheck(Myself,STATE_NOT_VISIBLE)  // and not invisible/impinvis/hiding
 HPPercentGT(Myself,75)
 CheckStatGT(Myself,50,STEALTH)  // and I have a decent chance of success
THEN
 RESPONSE #100
   FloatMessage(Myself,19944)   // say "Hide in Shadows Succeeded"
   Hide()
END

 

1. Message Floated

Hide in Shadows Succeeded (block 3)

Action

Character Hides

 

2. Message Floated

Find Traps (block 1)

Action

Chartacter Activates Find Traps

 

Notes for the home viewers. Once you switch to looking for traps, you automatically "Leave Shadows". Then you have about 3 rnds (18 seconds) in which to search for traps before you become visiable again.

 

Once you become visible again, block 3 would apply. And it does.

 

3. Message Floated

Hide in Shadows Succeded (block 3)

Action

No Action as far as I can tell

 

But you don't start hiding in shadows again, so something appears to be up with the Hide() action.

 

4. Message Floated

I must hide myself (block 2)

Action

No Action as far as I can tell

 

5. Message Floated (Repeats endlessly from this point on)

Hide in Shadows Succeeded (block 3)

Action

No Action as far as I can tell

 

As you can see from some of the comments, I tried it both ways...using SetGlobalTimer and SetTimer, just to see if there was a difference, but the results of the test were the same.

 

Conclusion? Something about Hide() is whacked in IWD?:D:D

 

Thanks,

Cirerrek

Yovaneth

Yovaneth

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That duplicates exactly what I was seeing. The odd thing is that Hide() works and FindTraps() works, but not if you try to run them one after another. It's as if executing FindTraps() prevents the future execution of Hide(), yet if you hit the Stealth GUI button, away goes the thief. As you say: :D:D:)

 

A bit more research needed; maybe delaying the block executions by a short timer might help.....maybe.

 

-Y-

Avenger

Avenger

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I'm not sure what's wrong, but the block containing

 

!Modalstate(a)

Modalstate(b)

 

is superfluous.

 

Modalstate could be either a or b (or c or d) but never both.

 

Also, i guess you know this:

 

1. Hide() fails if you are seen by any enemy.

2. Hide() fails when it was tried only recently (the hide button is disabled).

 

It could be that in bg2 the above conditions are checked higher level (closer to the gui), and not enforced in the scripting core.

 

Also, if Yovaneth's guessing about Hide don't work while Findtraps is active, try to insert a NoAction() when you set the variable for a subsequent Hide().

Noaction() is supposed to clear the modal state.

 

And an observation: in iwd2 when you come out of hiding, you are still invisible for a while. So instead of Hiding while finding traps, you might want to find traps AFTER hiding.

 

Hope some of the above remarks help :D

cirerrek

cirerrek

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I'm not sure what's wrong, but the block containing

 

!Modalstate(a)

Modalstate(b)

 

is superfluous.

 

Modalstate could be either a or b (or c or d) but never both.

 

Also, i guess you know this:

 

1. Hide() fails if you are seen by any enemy.

2. Hide() fails when it was tried only recently (the hide button is disabled).

 

It could be that in bg2 the above conditions are checked higher level (closer to the gui), and not enforced in the scripting core.

 

Also, if Yovaneth's guessing about Hide don't work while Findtraps is active, try to insert a NoAction() when you set the variable for a subsequent Hide().

Noaction() is supposed to clear the modal state.

 

And an observation: in iwd2 when you come out of hiding, you are still invisible for a while. So instead of Hiding while finding traps, you might want to find traps AFTER hiding.

 

Hope some of the above remarks help :D

 

Right, about the double modal state check being superfluous.

 

1. I don't believe there are any enemies where I am testing (Kuldahar)

2. The stealth button re-activates itself before the end of the snippet, so that shouldn't be the issue.

 

And an observation: in iwd2 when you come out of hiding, you are still invisible for a while. So instead of Hiding while finding traps, you might want to find traps AFTER hiding.

 

Do you mean that after you are fully visible on screen you are still considered invisible for a time? If that is the case then Yovaneth's suggestion about a Delay() might do the trick.

 

Hope some of the above remarks help :D

 

Very helpful. Thank you Avenger :)

Yovaneth

Yovaneth

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I'm not sure what's wrong, but the block containing

 

!Modalstate(a)

Modalstate(b)

 

is superfluous.

 

Modalstate could be either a or b (or c or d) but never both.

True, but in this case they are both required. ModalState(STEALTH) is doing the state check and !ModalState(DETECTTRAPS) is being used to stop the block re-triggering after the trap-finding has started.

 

1. Hide() fails if you are seen by any enemy.

2. Hide() fails when it was tried only recently (the hide button is disabled).

Neither has been a factor in the testing. Until the FindTraps() block is triggered for the first time, the Hide() block re-triggers constantly (as it is supposed to do) until the thief hides. Then it all falls over.... :D

 

Also, if Yovaneth's guessing about Hide don't work while Findtraps is active, try to insert a NoAction() when you set the variable for a subsequent Hide().

Noaction() is supposed to clear the modal state.

On the 'Try' list for tonight!

 

Hope some of the above remarks help :D

 

Yup!

-Y-

Yovaneth

Yovaneth

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Well, I tried again last night and my final Hide() try was this:-

 

//----snip----///
THEN
 RESPONSE #100
   NoAction()
   ClearAllActions()
   Wait(2)
   Hide()
END

Same result; either Hide() doesn't like FindTraps() or FindTraps() doesn't like Hide(). QED: it's buggered. Damn.

 

-Y-

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