GawainBS

Hehe, nice way of describing them. I'll check it out on the new PC then.

Are Mystic Warriors bound by the Mystic restrictions? Do the various Dragon scale armours count for them?

Thanks, but I'm going to upgrade to a new PC this week, so I'll see for a fresh install then.

The only small point of critique that I have, is that the kits/classes aren't very clear which weapons/armours/shields they can use.

This is from the weaponprof.2da:

"D5_EXTRA4080          B_ZEALOT_EILISTRAEE   B_ZEALOT_EILISTRAEE_2 B_ZEALOT_GRUU"

Kitlist:

128                   D5_EXTRA4080          73211                 73211                 73212                 D5_EXTRA              148                   0x00004000            20                    0x00004080
129                   B_ZEALOT_EILISTRAEE   73219                 73220                 74274                 B_ZE10                149                   0x02000000            12                    0x00004081
130                   B_ZEALOT_EILISTRAEE_2 73219                 73220                 74274                 B_ZEIL                150                   0x02000000            6                     0x00004082
131                   B_ZEALOT_GRUU         73223                 73224                 74263                 B_ZE02                151                   0x02000000            12                    0x00004083

The install is from a while ago. I don't recall which components I installed and which ones I didn't.

Related: Can I adjust the proficiencies in that 2da myself? Personally, I think it makes much more sense for a Ranger/Druid to have Ranger armour & weapon profs, to distinguish it from the Mielikki Ranger/Priest.

Sure. Where can I find the file? The F&P folder in BG folder?

Ok, good to know about the Earth sphere, thanks.

Other Paladins weren't subjected to the restrictions.

Two short remarks:

Is it deliberate that very few spheres contain the Iron Skin spell? Is it intended as a nerf for Divine casters?

I created a Paladin (Zealot) of Eilistriae, Darksong Knight, I believe. She couldn't use any weapon, apart from blunt weapons. This doesn't seem right for the kit.

So Bladesinger & Skald would remain as Fighter/Mage kits?

Now I am worried about what's happening to the Bladesinger and Skald...

That's very cool! Especially Warrior-Poet.

Actually, quite a good idea.

Ok, your signature is indeed a good tip.

A general readme, i.e. install order would be cool too. You repeat it often enough, but for someone new to the mods, it's not always clear.

Is there a subsite or something dedicated to your mods, @subtledoctor? Honestly, I can't play without them, but if you come back to the game after a couple of months, it can be tricky to find out what's what no in the subtle-verse.

I'm always pro-options, but isn't a Thief without Open Locks a bit useless? Granted, I've only ever pulled of one succesful backstab in 25 years of Infinity Engine games, so my opinion is coloured.

About the Blade kit proficiencies: I think it's weird they can use quarterstaff and polearms, but not twohanded swords.

In general, don't use EE when using subtledoctor's mods. EE breaks certain scripts.

When playing with the Weaponmaster from M&G and the WPO component, the 9th lvl Weaponmastery ability doesn't use the compiled weapongroups. You get the choice of individual weapons.

From what I've seen, it works on and off. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. It's still Battlesong cast from the menu button.

How compatible would those versions be with the Bardic Wonders change? It changes the normal Bard Song to last 3 rounds + 1 round/3 lvl.

No, no other script. Thanks for the confirmation.

They don't have Bard Song ability. That's intended as per the mod Might and Guile. They fight normally, switching to new targets after a kill. They don't cast spells during buffing, no offensive spells, no healing. Unmodded characters do. Same script, same setting.

These Bards use a different kind of spellcasting. Please see Might and Guile.

They don't sing, but they are technically Fighter/Mages, as per the Might and Guile mod. I got three modded Bards, all got the scripts assigned, but they don't cast.

On 7/29/2023 at 9:03 PM, morpheus562 said:

I'm not really sure what you mean by not work? Do they crash the game, do you have no script features available, do they behave erratically? 

Sorry for the late reply, I didn't get the notification. 

The Bards simply don't cast spells, while other casters do. Unmodded Bards cast too.

Thank you, going to try this when I get to BG2.

@subtledoctor I was wondering if it is possible to edit the files so that unkitted, basic Bards would also be able to get up to three pips in weapons/two in styles.

Thank you!