Note to translators

[Nugrud]

They are outdated. I'm in the process of translating SCS4BGT to Polish, but the situation with 4TuTu is very similiar. I reached all those Balduran's Isle quest staff and have noticed that many of them are just BG1:TotSC string references. Could you update (post here) that note?

 

Regards, Nugrud.

[DavidW]

I'm a little confused: what are "outdated", and in what way?

[Nugrud]

Some of these strings are just BG1 strings:

 

SCS tra entry BG1 - TOTSC string ref

 

@601 15844

@1113 20409

@1114 20412

@1304 6343

@1311 772

@1312 776

@1502 11828

@2101 2347

@2104 19287

 

The text of @201, @202, @203, @204, @301, @302 and @303 is the same as BG1 strings @17536, @17540, @17542, @19355, @17535, @17538, and @17539. (The weapon details differ mildly).

 

@304 is closely based on @12149.

 

@906 is almost (not quite - it records that the amulet blocks Magic Missile) the BG2 string 9990.

@1601 is almost the BG1 string 20882 - the difference is that the original records it as a bastard sword, we make it a longsword (and so base damage is 1d8 not 2d4)

@1903, @1904 and @1905 are based on the BG1 strings 20199, 20324 and 17938. (The only difference is that I have eight acolytes rather than six at the top of the Iron Throne tower, so you need to add references to Kaalos and Shennara).

 

I guess it was written in the past and doesn't cover, e.g. @1648, that it differs only by one sentence from @23410 (totsc), or @1604, @1609, @1647 are exactly the same as bg1: @21590, @21593, @24037, and so on.

 

I do not know the history how tra was expanding with next scs versions, but it seems like that note hasn't been evolving in parallel to those additions.

[DavidW]

Okay, I'm with you now - thanks.

[Nugrud]

Eventually I could translate it all, but you know - original translation would be of much better quality, no doubt

 

EDIT: You may be also interested in diff between yours and bgt version tra ('diff -B -a ./scs4tutu/tra/english.tra ./scs4.4bgt/tra/english.tra'):

 

< - tutu

> - bgt

 

11c11
< @11=~Allow NPC pairs separation~
---
> @11=~Allow NPC pairs to separate~
60a61
> 
405c406
< @708=~Nay, Minsc, we should respect <CHARNAME>'s judgement. We owe <PRO_HIMHER> much. Fare thee well, I shall be safe here and we will meet again before long.~
---
> @708=~Nay, Minsc, we should respect <CHARNAME>'s judgement. We owe him much. Fare thee well, I shall be safe here and we will meet again before long.~
512a514,521
> @1121=~You may be protected from my wrath... but what of your companions?~
> @1122=~Tell me, hero, are your friends as protected as you?~
> @1123=~A clever trick, adventurer - but I shall find other victims!~
> @1124=~Fool - your friends will suffer for your cursed protections!~
> @1125=~It is a rare thing, the protective magic that you shield yourself in. Are your allies so well protected, I wonder?~
> @1126=~Your protections will fade soon enough. I shall while away the time slaughtering your compaions!~
> 
> 
817,886c826
< @2505=~Not right now.~
< 
< 
< @3000= ~You have returned.  Perhaps you have discovered some of the wisdom that Gorion tried to impart upon you?  Shall we rejoin for the good of all?~
[...cut...]
< @3065= ~Quaffs potion of absorption~
---
> @2505=~Not right now.~

 

I will take account of it whilst preparing tra for tutu (from bgt).

[DavidW]

New version (done in rather a rush, so no promises). I think the only omissions are the Werewolf Isle entries (which is actually an error in the original SCS, not the result of a new version)

 

Some of these strings are just BG1 strings:

 

SCS tra entry BG1 - TOTSC string ref

 

@601 15844

@1113 20409

@1114 20412

@1304 6343

@1311 772

@1312 776

@1502 11828

@1604 23784

@1609 23786

@1614 23350

@1642 24030

@1645 24035

@1649 24020

@1653 23421

@1654 23426

@1655 23423

@1657 23425

@1658 23427

@1659 23428

@1660 23429

@1661 23434

@1662 23437

@1663 23438

@1664 23439

@2101 2347

@2104 19287

 

 

 

The text of @201, @202, @203, @204, @301, @302 and @303 is the same as BG1 strings @17536, @17540, @17542, @19355, @17535, @17538, and @17539. (The weapon details differ mildly).

 

@304 is closely based on @12149.

 

@906 is almost (not quite - it records that the amulet blocks Magic Missile) the BG2 string 9990.

@1601 is almost the BG1 string 20882 - the difference is that the original records it as a bastard sword, we make it a longsword (and so base damage is 1d8 not 2d4)

@1644 is almost 24031 (the word "kill" in the last sentence is replaced by "abandon")

@1648 is almost 23410 (the second to last and third to last sentences are different)

@1650 is almost 24021 (the last four sentences of 24021 are replaced by the last sentence of @1650)

The first sentence of @1656 is the same as the first sentence of 23426

@1665 is almost 23438 (the last two sentences of 23438 are replaced by the last sentence of @1665)

@1666 is almost 23433 ("Murderous wretch! Filth!" is replaced by "Useless wretch!")

 

 

@1903, @1904 and @1905 are based on the BG1 strings 20199, 20324 and 17938. (The only difference is that I have eight acolytes rather than six at the top of the Iron Throne tower, so you need to add references to Kaalos and Shennara).

[Nugrud]

Thanks!

[Nugrud]

Could it be followed by finished polish.tra?

 

BTW. Do you know why those strings:

 

> @1121=~You may be protected from my wrath... but what of your companions?~

> @1122=~Tell me, hero, are your friends as protected as you?~

> @1123=~A clever trick, adventurer - but I shall find other victims!~

> @1124=~Fool - your friends will suffer for your cursed protections!~

> @1125=~It is a rare thing, the protective magic that you shield yourself in. Are your allies so well protected, I wonder?~

> @1126=~Your protections will fade soon enough. I shall while away the time slaughtering your compaions!~

 

Are missing in SCS's version?

polishtutu.tra.zip

[DavidW]

Could it be followed by finished polish.tra?

 

BTW. Do you know why those strings:

 

> @1121=~You may be protected from my wrath... but what of your companions?~

> @1122=~Tell me, hero, are your friends as protected as you?~

> @1123=~A clever trick, adventurer - but I shall find other victims!~

> @1124=~Fool - your friends will suffer for your cursed protections!~

> @1125=~It is a rare thing, the protective magic that you shield yourself in. Are your allies so well protected, I wonder?~

> @1126=~Your protections will fade soon enough. I shall while away the time slaughtering your compaions!~

 

Are missing in SCS's version?

 

They aren't. Are you sure you're translating the v4 tra file?

[Nugrud]

Did I say "SCS's version"? Gush, I meant "BGT's version" of course. Sorry, it was late here.

[DavidW]

Did I say "SCS's version"? Gush, I meant "BGT's version" of course. Sorry, it was late here.

 

It's because BGT is a bit behind TUTU in updates - those strings are part of v4 of SCS, but although SCSBGT is also on v4, it's only incorporated changes in the original SCS up to v3.

[Graoumf]

Hello,

 

I've got one question about this string :

@3059=~[bGT string @3059]~

 

Must we translate it ? Or is it a special code ?

 

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Besides, I can say that there is many others strings which are identical to original games, particularly around the @3000 ones. I haven't the details, but one of us is developping a program to compare with originals games and replace such strings in .tra files.

I guess he will say more when it will be finished. In SCS, 75 strings have been replaced like this.

 

 

Edit : Ok, thanks DavidW!

[DavidW]

Hello,

 

I've got one question about this string :

@3059=~[bGT string @3059]~

 

Must we translate it ? Or is it a special code ?

 

It's a special code, as far as I recall. Don't bother translating it.