Imprisonment vs. freedom

[grodrigues]

Imprisonment in SR changes imprison to apply maze with a duration and adds a kill effect + freedom after 5 rounds to prevent the several downsides of imprisonment. Unfortunately, freedom now needs to be patched to remove this. In the EE's we can use 321, but on old BG what can be done? Furthermore, barbarian rage explicitly mentions protection against imprison so it must also be patched. (note: IR boots of etherealness, or whatever the hell they are called, need also to be patched). The other rages (berserk, minsc's, etc.) protect against maze, though not explicitly mentioning pro vs. imprison, must also be made to protect against it due to this change.

Is there any other change needed? PR opened at Imprisonment vs. freedom patches

note to self: unrelated, but need to patch Inquisitor's True Sight against Shadow Door aux spell that mazes. PR next to getting this one in

[subtledoctor]

1 hour ago, grodrigues said:

freedom now needs to be patched to remove this. In the EE's we can use 321, but on old BG what can be done?

Apply the secondary effects via a subspell, and have Freedom apply temporary (five-round) 206 vs. that subspell? 

[grodrigues]

19 hours ago, subtledoctor said:

Apply the secondary effects via a subspell, and have Freedom apply temporary (five-round) 206 vs. that subspell? 

This would also block incoming imprisons. What does work is adding a custom sectype and then use Remove Sectype [221].

[subtledoctor]

28 minutes ago, grodrigues said:

This would also block incoming imprisons. What does work is adding a custom sectype and then use Remove Sectype [221].

No, you only protect against the subspell. Any incoming imprisonment would be cast after Freedom, and the next subspell would be cast on a 30-second delay, so the immunity would have ended. The only hiccup would be in the vanishingly small edge case where Freedom and a second Imprisonment are cast at the same time. 

Could use a custom sectype too. But it doesn’t seem necessary. 

[grodrigues]

1 hour ago, subtledoctor said:

No, you only protect against the subspell. Any incoming imprisonment would be cast after Freedom, and the next subspell would be cast on a 30-second delay, so the immunity would have ended. The only hiccup would be in the vanishingly small edge case where Freedom and a second Imprisonment are cast at the same time.

Ah, right, misunderstood your solution. Well patch is in and went with the sectype solution. Tested install and in NI and everything seems fine. Going to let it stew for a couple of days and then merge it.

[Bartimaeus]

Doing it by sectype is how SRR has historically handled it as well. It's not the most graceful solution per se, but it's alright and does work across all games.

Edited June 17, 2023 by Bartimaeus