berelinde Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 ...once I get some other commitments done. I never had much use for Kivan in a vanilla BG1. You couldn't heal him (magic resistance always seemed to make healing spells fizzle), and his grumpy soundset was a bit off-putting. But now that I have NPC Project installed, and I'm playing BG1 the way I wish it was in the first place, I'm actually enjoying getting to know Kivan and wishing there was something I could do to help him. Like I said. I've got a couple commitments to wrap up. But eventually, I would like to try BG2 with Kivan. I'd like to help him restore his lost wife. Somewhere, I read that this is an evil deed. As I like to run paladins, this might be a problem. What exactly is evil about restoring the true love of your friend? Apart from calling her away from Elvish paradise? Link to comment
Guest Storm Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Well you are removing a person from paradise isn't that selfish then? Anyway I believe you can only restore and raise a person if one is willing. So I would just assume if it works she wants to come back. Link to comment
Domi Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Apart from calling her away from Elvish paradise? That's the big one. Kivan is commiting a sancrosact and endangeres Deheriana. While the discussion on the matter is not (hopefully) too long, I think it will give a player some grounds to make his or her own choice (same with Tazok). Whatever your paladin decides, s/he must go with what s/he thinks is right. Whatever descision you make here it would definetly not be followed by a Reputation drop/forced fall from grace or some sort of divine punishment. Link to comment
berelinde Posted July 16, 2006 Author Share Posted July 16, 2006 Well, that's a relief. Like I said, it's going to be a while before I play this one out, but I wouldn't want to start out knowing that I'm going to have to chose between restoring my friend's wife and remaining a paladin. Of course, after I've played it, I might not want to have her called back, but that's a subject for play time. Link to comment
Domi Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Like I said, it's going to be a while before I play this one out, but I wouldn't want to start out knowing that I'm going to have to chose between restoring my friend's wife and remaining a paladin. Oh, it's not going anywhere. I'm sort of into trying to set up a moral puzzle with a few unknowns and a couple-three valid outcomes. Sometimes it's an overkill, I guess, but well, Kivan lends himself pretty easily to those games of dappled shadows. Heh, I guess, I just like characters with some duality/internal conflict; I can't even write a half-orc barbarian without it. Apparently. Have fun with the game. Link to comment
kuemper Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 ...once I get some other commitments done. I never had much use for Kivan in a vanilla BG1. You couldn't heal him (magic resistance always seemed to make healing spells fizzle), and his grumpy soundset was a bit off-putting. Um, Kivan doesn't have magic resistance in the vanilla game. Link to comment
Domi Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 He does not, but his soundset is gruff in places. Belerinde might be using one of kits for him in TUTU version, though it beats me which ranger kit has MR. I always have him as an Archer and do not remeber MR being on the tab. Link to comment
Andyr Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 I think berelinde is thinking of Viconia, who had magic resistance (also stopping friendly spells) in BG1. Link to comment
Domi Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Yes, she'd be the only NPC I associate with "cannot be healed because of MR"... Link to comment
berelinde Posted July 18, 2006 Author Share Posted July 18, 2006 No, I meant Kivan. But on reflection, perhaps it was an item? What would do that, I wonder? Also, that was based on an old install of BG, which may have had some corruptions. It's always possible Kivan's elvish sleep and charm resistances were triggered. I blush in shame, but my original copy of BG was copied from a friend, by a friend, and I have no idea what he did to his game. Lots of stuff did not work that should have worked. In retrospect, maybe I should have tried healing him last game. I just finished the NPC Project with Kivan (and Ajantis) in the party. From past experience, I thought he would be resistant to healing spells, so I never cast any in his direction. Link to comment
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