Interesting fight with werewolves

February 24, 2009

Hello,

First i must say that i really enjoy both SCS and SCS2 and i've been a long time fan. Today i almost fell of the chair laughing when my party returned from ww isle and had fight with Mendas. I didn't remember that both of the guys were casters (earlier i could swear they fought as werewolves). Anyway Mendas went down in seconds, but his other friend (whose name escapes me now) decided to even things out. Guy summoned not one BUT FOUR fallen planetars to even out the battle field! Gotta say that was the funniest moment i've had with bg mods EVER. I run heavily modded game, but scs was installed the last (before some tweaks). After my party was literally chunked, i reloaded and finished the encounter by focusing on the other guy first.

Taimon · February 25, 2009

Which SCS version did you use?

Jarno Mikkola · February 25, 2009

I am going to bet on the fact that this is on the wrong forum etc. but still: WeiDU.log's content, please. Open the file with Notepad or some other text editor.

February 25, 2009

Ok weidu file coming up. I have also experienced some minor bug with some bears not turning hostile when attacked (no red circle). I have most likely screwed up installation somehow...

// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods

// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod

// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name [ : Version]

~EASYTUTUDEGREENIFIER.TP2~ #0 #0 // EasyTutu Degreenifier

~TUTUGUI/SETUP-TUTUGUI.TP2~ #0 #0 // Baldurs Gate I GUI for Tutu, SoA/ToB, or BGT

~TUTUGUI/SETUP-TUTUGUI.TP2~ #0 #1 // Support for The Biggs widescreen mod

~WIDESCREEN/WIDESCREEN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Widescreen Mod: Widescreen Mod v2

~SETUP-EASYTUTUNPCKITS.TP2~ #0 #29 // Assign a kit to Kivan? -> Kivan: Archer

~SETUP-EASYTUTUNPCKITS.TP2~ #0 #38 // Assign a kit to Shar-Teel? -> Shar-Teel: Barbarian

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #0 // The BG1 NPC Project: Required Modifications: v16

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #1 // The BG1 NPC Project: Banters, Quests, and Interjections: v16

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #8 // The BG1 NPC Project: Add Non-Joinable NPC portraits to quests and dialogues: v16

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #9 // The BG1 NPC Project: Ajantis Romance Core (teen content): v16

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #10 // The BG1 NPC Project: Branwen's Romance Core (teen content): v16

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #11 // The BG1 NPC Project: Coran's Romance Core (adult content): v16

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #12 // The BG1 NPC Project: Dynaheir's Romance Core (teen content): v16

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #13 // The BG1 NPC Project: Shar-Teel Relationship Core (adult content): v16

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #14 // The BG1 NPC Project: Xan's Romance Core (teen content): v16

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #15 // The BG1 NPC Project: Female Romance Challenges, Ajantis vs Xan vs Coran: v16

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #16 // The BG1 NPC Project: NPCs can be sent to wait in an inn: v16

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #25 // Jason Compton's Accelerated Banter Script.: v16

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #26 // The BG1 NPC Project: Make Shar-Teel Unkillable until In Party: v16

~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #30 // The BG1 NPC Project: Sarevok's Diary Adjustments -> SixofSpades Extended Sarevok's Diary: v16

~BG1NPCMUSIC/BG1NPCMUSIC.TP2~ #0 #0 // The BG1 NPC Project Music Pack -> Install All Audio: v5

~CORANBGFRIEND/CORANBGFRIEND.TP2~ #0 #0 // Coran's Extended BG Friendship Talks, v1, October 20, 2007: v2

~AJANTISBG1/SETUP-AJANTISBG1.TP2~ #0 #0 // Installs Ajantis BG1 Expansion Modification: 2.1

~AJANTISBG1/SETUP-AJANTISBG1.TP2~ #0 #1 // Install custom portrait for Ajantis: 2.1

~SETUP-FINCHNPCV3.TP2~ #0 #0 // Finch NPC for Tutu v3.0

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ice Island Level Two Restoration: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Mysterious Vial: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Additional Elminster Encounter: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #8 // Safana the Flirt: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Appropriate Albert and Rufie Reward: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #10 // Place Entar Silvershield in His Home: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #11 // Scar and the Sashenstar's Daughter: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Quoningar, the Cleric: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #13 // Shilo Chen and the Ogre-Magi: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #14 // Edie, the Merchant League Applicant: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #15 // Flaming Fist Mercenary Reinforcements: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #16 // Creature Corrections: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Creature Restorations: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #18 // Creature Name Restorations: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #19 // Minor Dialogue Restorations: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #20 // Audio Restorations: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Store, Tavern and Inn Fixes and Restorations: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #22 // Item Corrections and Restorations: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #23 // Area Corrections and Restorations: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #25 // Elven Charm and Sleep Racial Resistance: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #26 // The Original Saga Music Playlist Corrections: 7

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #27 // Sarevok's Diary Corrections: 7

~BGQE/SETUP-BGQE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Baldur's Gate Mini-Quests and Encounters Mod: 4.1

~SETUP-TGC1E.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Grey Clan Episode One: In Candlelight, BG1TUTU edition v1.11 -> Normal edition

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #10 // Detectable Spells: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #20 // Allow enemy AI to detect the party's magic items: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #30 // Correct various errors on race, class etc: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #1010 // More consistent Breach spell (doesn't penetrate Spell Turning): v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #1030 // Iron Skins behaves like Stoneskin (can be brought down by Breach): v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #2020 // Re-introduce potions of extra-healing: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #3020 // Allow player to choose NPC proficiencies and skills: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #4010 // Remove blur effect from displacer cloak: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #4020 // Stackable ankheg shells and winterwolf pelts: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #4040 // Ensure Shar-Teel doesn't die in the original challenge: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #4050 // Ease-of-use player AI: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #5000 // Smarter general AI: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #5010 // Better calls for help: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #5022 // Potions for NPCs -> Half the potions dropped by slain enemies break and are lost: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #5032 // Smarter mages -> Mages use BG1 spells only; mages pre-buff: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #5042 // Smarter priests -> Priests use BG1 spells only; priests pre-buff: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #5050 // Smarter deployment: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #5070 // Smarter sirines and dryads: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #5080 // Slightly harder carrion crawlers: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #5090 // Smarter basilisks: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6010 // Tougher Black Talons and Iron Throne guards: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6020 // Improved deployment for parties of assassins: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6030 // Dark Side-based kobold upgrade: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6040 // Relocated bounty hunters: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6050 // Improved Ulcaster: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6060 // Improved Balduran's Isle: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6070 // Improved Durlag's Tower: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6080 // Improved Demon Cultists: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6090 // Improved Cloakwood Druids: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6100 // Improved Bassilus: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6110 // Improved Drasus party: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6120 // Improved Red Wizards: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6130 // Improved Undercity party: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6140 // Improved minor encounters: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6150 // Tougher chapter-two end battle: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6160 // Tougher chapter-three end battle: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6170 // Tougher chapter-four end battle: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6180 // Tougher chapter-five end battle: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6190 // Tougher chapter-six end battle: v11

~SETUP-SCS.TP2~ #0 #6200 // Improved final battle: v11

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #60 // Weapon Animation Tweaks: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #100 // Commoners Use Drab Colors: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #110 // Icon Improvements: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #130 // Force All Dialogue to Pause Game: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1010 // More Interjections: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1070 // Improved Multi-Player Kick-out Dialogues: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1080 // Add Bags of Holding: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1090 // Exotic Item Pack: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1100 // Reveal City Maps When Entering Area: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1110 // Add Map Notes: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1120 // Stores Sell Higher Stacks of Items: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2090 // Change Experience Point Cap -> Remove Experience Cap: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2140 // Expanded Dual-Class Options: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2170 // Cast Spells from Scrolls (and Other Items) at Character Level: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2270 // Alter Bard Spell Progression Table -> Un-Nerfed Table (Blucher): v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2280 // Alter Cleric Spell Progression Table -> Un-Nerfed Table (Blucher): v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2290 // Alter Druid Spell and Level Progression Tables -> No Level Progression Changes, Un-Nerfed Druid Spell Table Only (Blucher): v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3070 // Change Effect of Reputation on Store Prices -> Low Reputation Store Discount (Sabre): v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3080 // Unlimited Ammo Stacking: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3090 // Unlimited Gem and Jewelry Stacking: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4020 // ToB-Style NPCs: v7

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4050 // Change Jaheira to Neutral Good: v7

I actually had the same problem with bears with a different installation, which was basically somewhat similar but with hard times mod and few npc mods on top of this current installation. Current installationis absolutely clean with the mods installed on top of easytutu latest version.

February 25, 2009

One clarification to the previous comment. I meant to say that my current installation is a fresh one on a new laptop with the mods listed on weidu file. I have not done any uninstalls (mods) or anything. Maybe some creature corrections were done twice or something.. But still i feel the problem could be SCS related conflict with other mods or components.

DavidW · March 2, 2009

One clarification to the previous comment. I meant to say that my current installation is a fresh one on a new laptop with the mods listed on weidu file. I have not done any uninstalls (mods) or anything. Maybe some creature corrections were done twice or something.. But still i feel the problem could be SCS related conflict with other mods or components.

I'm a bit confused as to how you can have avoided getting EasyTutu/BG1TUTU on your WEIDU.log. My guess is that your installation has got tangled somehow - I've just failed to reproduce this on a clean install.

Jarno Mikkola · March 2, 2009

I'm a bit confused as to how you can have avoided getting EasyTutu/BG1TUTU on your WEIDU.log. My guess is that your installation has got tangled somehow - I've just failed to reproduce this on a clean install.

As the EasyTutu makes it's own game directory, it's never mentioned, at least in the larger version of the install, where it copies most of the BGII data to the new Tutu directory.

DavidW · March 2, 2009

I'm a bit confused as to how you can have avoided getting EasyTutu/BG1TUTU on your WEIDU.log. My guess is that your installation has got tangled somehow - I've just failed to reproduce this on a clean install.
As the EasyTutu makes it's own game directory, it's never mentioned, at least in the larger version of the install, where it copies most of the BGII data to the new Tutu directory.

duh, of course - sorry.

(I still don't see where this bug comes from, though.)

coaster · March 2, 2009

The latest version of BG1 UB made some changes to Baresh I think. Is it possible these are interacting with SCS? The BG1 UB readme simply says "Fixed patching of Baresh"...

I recall there were some issues with Baresh summoning planetars in an earlier version of SCS, but that was on BGT not Tutu.

DavidW · March 2, 2009

The latest version of BG1 UB made some changes to Baresh I think. Is it possible these are interacting with SCS? The BG1 UB readme simply says "Fixed patching of Baresh"...

I recall there were some issues with Baresh summoning planetars in an earlier version of SCS, but that was on BGT not Tutu.

Thanks for the heads-up ... but no, I don't think so. (I haven't tried an install test, but looking through BG1UB I don't see that it can be causing a problem.)

March 8, 2009

I also observed this on one of my attempts to defeat Mendas. I don't remember the exact circumstances - I think I left most of my party outside his house to let my tank deal with it - but what happened was that Baresh did not turn red when Mendas did. Figuring I'd roll with it and deal with him later, I finished off Mendas, only to find a flock of fallen planetars (or solars? don't remember) waiting for me when I went back into the main room (after chasing & killing Mendas in the bedroom). This was an isolated incident, however; I only saw it happen once. Usually Baresh turned red at the same time as Mendas, cast a few spells, then shifted to werewolf form (whether or not I attacked him).

I'd also like to comment that, having only two weapons (Werebane Dagger and (bastard) Sword of Balduran) capable of hitting the greater werewolves, with no credible melee character in my party proficient in those weapon types, made the greater werewolf fights rather difficult given the greater werewolves' regeneration rate (primary tank / main character was 8th-level Cavalier at the time). Also, the werebane dagger description is identical to a normal dagger, although my record screen seemed to indicate that it was a +3 weapon (vs. everything, not just lycanthropes, assuming that it does indeed use dagger proficiency).

Btw, I'm not really looking for a fix, since I've arrived at a generally stable configuration that I don't want to mess with and have passed the Isle of Balduran stage; I'm just sending this in the hope that you find it helpful. I've also used the "v9 (Unoffical hotfix)" version of SCS, so I apologize if the data is too old.

Wiedu log:

// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods

// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod

// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name [ : Version]

~EASYTUTUDEGREENIFIER.TP2~ #0 #0 // EasyTutu Degreenifier

~SETUP-TUTUFIX.TP2~ #0 #3 // BG2 Ammo Stacks

~SETUP-TUTUFIX.TP2~ #0 #5 // BG1 Summoning Spells

~SETUP-EASYTUTUSPAWNRANDOMIZER.TP2~ #0 #5 // EasyTutu Spawn Randomizer -> Base Spawn Chance: 80%

~SETUP-EASYTUTUSPAWNRANDOMIZER.TP2~ #0 #10 // Respawn Interval Selection -> Respawn Interval: 3 game days