Dispel/Resistance

[Alonso]

I'm in the process of creating my first mod, Corrected spell descriptions, and it looks like the IESDP can be very handy to find useful information. It looks like many of the original spell descriptions miss information about whether each spell is dispellable and whether it bypasses magic resistance, so I'm using NI and IESDP to find this information. With some spells a quick look at NI is enough, but sometimes it's trickier.

Right now I'm checking Aura of Despair (SPCL103). Most of its effects are Dispel/Not bypass resistance, so that's easy. However, the effect "Remove effects by resource" is Natural/Nonmagical. The funny thing is that it looks like this effect would cancel the whole spell, because it removes Aura of Despair itself, but that doesn't seem to make sense. So what does this effect do? And does it affect the "dispellability" and the MR bypassing of the spell?

[K4thos]

Remove effects by resource opcode with the name of the spell in resource field, when placed before other effects, is meant to clean out all effects previously applied by that spell (in order to make them not stack or to reset duration).

Edited August 11, 2019 by K4thos

[Alonso]

Thank you, @K4thos. Should that info be added to the IESDP?

[lynx]

I would say no. Effects are executed in order of their appearance, so this is not unexpected. Plus there's no obvious place for this type of thing.

Edited August 15, 2019 by lynx

[Alonso]

In my installation Remove effects by resource appears in NI as the penultimate effect in the list. The only effect that comes later is THAC0 bonus. So following this idea it looks like only THAC0 bonus should apply, the other effects should be removed. But I believe that's not what actually happens.

[lynx]

Belief is useless here, only facts matter. In which game is this spell? I can't find it.

[Alonso]

BG2EE

[lynx]

Ah, I don't have that handy. I believe NI lists the effects in order, since anything else would be quite silly. So I'd check if any mods modified the spell (though in my experience weidu --change-log is not reliable).

[kjeron]

The "View" tab lists effects/abilities/etc... in Alphabetical order, the "Edit" tab lists them in their actual order.

[Alonso]

Which seems quite confusing. I've requested this to be fixed here. Since NI is the de facto standard to browse these data, would it be a good idea to explain this in the IESDP?

[lynx]

*angry DLTCEP noises*