xiaoleiwen Posted December 1, 2021 Author Share Posted December 1, 2021 Still can't decide on whether I should install something midgame and continue the adventure in SOD. As the third playthrough in these 2 years, I feel like need to add more things to have to motivation to play SOD. Unfortunately I didn't use any bg1 npc mod with sod content in current playthrough (such as aura, sirene) and I can't remember any standalone npc mod for sod. It also seems like no quest mod for sod at the moment. The reason I'm considering this is probably because I'm gonna play Lava's Skie mod in bg2, so probably may feel weird if my charname never experience the story in sod..(rp reason) Now I see why some will install mod that they may not use in current playthrough, its good to have alternative in the game if you change your mind midgame. Quote Link to comment
xiaoleiwen Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share Posted December 4, 2021 Finished my BG1 playthrough (not playing SOD this time) with the following list without issues. EEEx and Spell Menu were added midgame and it worked well. Spoiler ~DLCMERGER/DLCMERGER.TP2~ #0 #1 // Merge DLC into game -> Merge "Siege of Dragonspear" DLC: 1.3~DRAGONSPEAR_UI++/DRAGONSPEAR_UI++.TP2~ #0 #1 // Install SoD GUI Overhaul Core Component: 21.09.0~DRAGONSPEAR_UI++/DRAGONSPEAR_UI++.TP2~ #0 #3 // Update several strings in Dialog.tlk: 21.09.0~DRAGONSPEAR_UI++/DRAGONSPEAR_UI++.TP2~ #0 #9 // Select Number of Quicksave Slots -> 6: 21.09.0~DRAGONSPEAR_UI++/DRAGONSPEAR_UI++.TP2~ #0 #10 // Update portrait Picker: 21.09.0~DRAGONSPEAR_UI++/DRAGONSPEAR_UI++.TP2~ #0 #11 // Fix Blurry Portraits: 21.09.0~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ice Island Level Two Restoration: v16.0~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #11 // Scar and the Sashenstar's Daughter: v16.0~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Quoningar, the Cleric: v16.0~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #13 // Shilo Chen and the Ogre-Magi: v16.0~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #14 // Edie, the Merchant League Applicant: v16.0~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #16 // Creature Corrections: v16.0~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Creature Restorations: v16.0~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #18 // Creature Name Restorations: v16.0~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #19 // Minor Dialogue Restorations: v16.0~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Store, Tavern and Inn Fixes and Restorations: v16.0~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #22 // Item Corrections and Restorations: v16.0~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #29 // Duke Eltan in the Harbor Master's Building: v16.0~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #30 // Nim Furlwing Encounter: v16.0~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #32 // Svlast, the Fallen Paladin Encounter: v16.0~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #33 // Mal-Kalen, the Ulcaster Ghost: v16.0~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #34 // Chapter 6 Dialogue Restorations: v16.0~SOA/SETUP-SOA.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Stone of Askavar for TotSC/Tutu/BGT/BGEE -> Default version: areas connected by travel triggers: 2.2~BGQE/SETUP-BGQE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Slime Quest: v25~BGQE/SETUP-BGQE.TP2~ #0 #1 // Beregost Family Quest: v25~BGQE/SETUP-BGQE.TP2~ #0 #2 // Babysitting Quest, including the Carnival Encounter...: v25~BGQE/SETUP-BGQE.TP2~ #0 #3 // Nashkel Monster Quest: v25~BGQE/SETUP-BGQE.TP2~ #0 #4 // Fallen Paladin Quest: v25~BGQE/SETUP-BGQE.TP2~ #0 #5 // Undying Love Quest: v25~BGQE/SETUP-BGQE.TP2~ #0 #6 // Lovesick Half-Orc: v25~BGQE/SETUP-BGQE.TP2~ #0 #7 // Unexpected Help Quest: v25~BGQE/SETUP-BGQE.TP2~ #0 #8 // Many Little Paws: v25~BGQE/SETUP-BGQE.TP2~ #0 #9 // Drunk near Beregost Temple: v25~BGQE/SETUP-BGQE.TP2~ #0 #10 // A Warm Place for Noober: v25~BGQE/SETUP-BGQE.TP2~ #0 #11 // Brage's Sword: v25~BGQE/SETUP-BGQE.TP2~ #0 #12 // Legal Sea Charts Sources: v25~BGQE/SETUP-BGQE.TP2~ #0 #13 // Additions to the Lady's Hall and the Bitch Queen's Temple: v25~BGQE/SETUP-BGQE.TP2~ #0 #14 // A Worried Farmer: v25~BGQE/SETUP-BGQE.TP2~ #0 #15 // Bodies for a Good Cause: v25~BGQE/SETUP-BGQE.TP2~ #0 #16 // Finish Cordyr's Quest without killing Sil: v25~AC_QUEST/AC_QUEST.TP2~ #1 #0 // A Job Well-Paid: 4.1~AC_QUEST/AC_QUEST.TP2~ #1 #1 // A Feast for the Gnolls: 4.1~AC_QUEST/AC_QUEST.TP2~ #1 #2 // Jumper: 4.1~AC_QUEST/AC_QUEST.TP2~ #1 #3 // The Lost Son: 4.1~AC_QUEST/AC_QUEST.TP2~ #1 #5 // Of Wolves and Men -> Quest uses house in Beregost.: 4.1~AC_QUEST/AC_QUEST.TP2~ #1 #6 // The Great Carlini: 4.1~AC_QUEST/AC_QUEST.TP2~ #1 #7 // A Home for the Gibberlings: 4.1~AC_QUEST/AC_QUEST.TP2~ #1 #8 // Fangirls: 4.1~AC_QUEST/AC_QUEST.TP2~ #1 #9 // The Serpents of Abbathor: 4.1~BST/SETUP-BST.TP2~ #0 #0 // The BS Company presents Balduran's Seatower: vEAOB.7~SOTSC/SOTSC.TP2~ #0 #0 // Shades of the Sword Coast - Expansion Pack for BGEE: 6.4~BG1NPC/BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #0 // The BG1 NPC Project: Required Modifications: v27.1~BG1NPC/BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #10 // The BG1 NPC Project: Banters, Quests, and Interjections: v27.1~BG1NPC/BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #20 // The BG1 NPC Project: Ajantis Romance Core (teen content) -> Speed: 1 hour real time (standard) minimum between LoveTalks: v27.1~BG1NPC/BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #30 // The BG1 NPC Project: Branwen's Romance Core (teen content) -> Speed: 1 hour real time (standard) minimum between LoveTalks: v27.1~BG1NPC/BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #40 // The BG1 NPC Project: Coran's Romance Core (adult content) -> Speed: 1 hour real time (standard) minimum between LoveTalks: v27.1~BG1NPC/BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #50 // The BG1 NPC Project: Dynaheir's Romance Core (teen content) -> Speed: 1 hour real time (standard) minimum between LoveTalks: v27.1~BG1NPC/BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #60 // The BG1 NPC Project: Shar-Teel Relationship Core (adult content) -> Speed: 1 hour real time (standard) minimum between LoveTalks: v27.1~BG1NPC/BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #70 // The BG1 NPC Project: Xan's Romance Core (teen content) -> Speed: 1 hour real time (standard) minimum between LoveTalks: v27.1~BG1NPC/BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #80 // The BG1 NPC Project: Female Romance Challenges, Ajantis vs Xan vs Coran: v27.1~BG1NPC/BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #113 // BGEE Banter Timing Tweak -> Banter Timing: Slow (about 40 minutes between banter dialogs): v27.1~BG1NPC/BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #130 // The BG1 NPC Project: Sarevok's Diary Adjustments -> SixofSpades Extended Sarevok's Diary: v27.1~BG1NPC/BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #200 // The BG1 NPC Project: Player-Initiated Dialogues: v27.1~AJANTISBG1/SETUP-AJANTISBG1.TP2~ #0 #0 // Installs Ajantis BG1 Expansion Modification: 17~AJANTISBG1/SETUP-AJANTISBG1.TP2~ #0 #1 // Install the unique BG:EE BAM for Ajantis' Family Shield: 17~GLAMNPCPACK/SETUP-GLAMNPCPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Glam's NPC Pack for BG:EE, BGT and BG TUTU~RANDOMISER/RANDOMISER.TP2~ #0 #1300 // Randomise items -> Mode 2: Randomise with WeiDU. No items are lost: 7~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #10 // Remove Helmet Animations: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #40 // Change Viconia's Skin Color to Dark Blue: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #130 // Force All Dialogue to Pause Game: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1010 // More Interjections: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1070 // Improved Multi-Player Kick-out Dialogues: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1080 // Add Bags of Holding: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1090 // Exotic Item Pack: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1100 // Reveal City Maps When Entering Area: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1120 // Stores Sell Higher Stacks of Items: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1251 // Move NPCs to Convenient Locations: Move Alora to Gullykin: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1252 // Move NPCs to Convenient Locations: Move Eldoth to the Coast Way: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1253 // Move NPCs to Convenient Locations: Move Quayle to the Nashkel Carnival: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1254 // Move NPCs to Convenient Locations: Move Shar-Teel to North Nashkel Road: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1255 // Move NPCs to Convenient Locations: Move Tiax to Beregost: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1256 // Move NPCs to Convenient Locations: Move Viconia to South Beregost Road: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2090 // Change Experience Point Cap -> Remove Experience Cap: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2999 // Max HP at Level One: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3000 // Higher HP on Level Up -> Maximum: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3030 // Easy Spell Learning -> 100% Learn Spells: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3040 // Make Bags of Holding Bottomless: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3050 // Remove fatigue from restoration spells: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3072 // Change Effect of Reputation on Store Prices -> Reputation Has No Effect, Stores Price Fixed at 80% (Luiz): v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3080 // Increase Ammo Stack Size -> Unlimited Ammo Stacking: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3090 // Increase Gem and Jewelry Stacking -> Unlimited Gem and Jewelry Stacking: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3100 // Increase Potion Stacking -> Unlimited Potion Stacking: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3110 // Increase Scroll Stacking -> Unlimited Scroll Stacking: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3121 // Happy Patch (Party NPCs do not complain about reputation) -> NPCs Can Be Angry About Reputation but Never Leave (Salk): v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3123 // NPCs Don't Fight: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3125 // Neutral Characters Make Happy Comments at Mid-Range Reputation: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3130 // No Traps or Locks (Weimer): v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3190 // Rest Anywhere (Japheth): v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3205 // Stores Purchase All Item Types: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3342 // Increase party movement speed outside combat -> By 150 percent: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4000 // Adjust Evil joinable NPC reaction rolls: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4025 // Allow NPC pairs to separate: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4031 // Consistent Stats: Edwin -> Use BG2 Values: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4041 // Consistent Stats: Jaheira -> Use BG2 Values: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4061 // Consistent Stats: Minsc -> Use BG2 Values: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4071 // Consistent Stats: Viconia -> Use BG2 Values: v9~CDTWEAKS/SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4170 // Ensure Shar-Teel doesn't die in the original challenge: v9~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #1500 // Include arcane spells from Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition: 34.3~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #1510 // Include divine spells from Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition: 34.3~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #3505 // Wider selection of random scrolls: 34.3~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #3551 // Increase the power of Cure Wounds and Cause Wounds spells to the level found in 3rd Edition D&D -> Spells heal or inflict the maximum amount of damage in this range: 34.3~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #3580 // Restoration and Lesser Restoration spells heal ability-score damage: 34.3~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #4000 // Faster Bears: 34.3~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #4020 // More realistic wolves and wild dogs: 34.3~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #4051 // Decrease the rate at which reputation improves -> Reputation increases at about 1/2 the normal rate: 34.3~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #5080 // Improved textscreens in Tales of the Sword Coast: 34.3~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #5900 // Initialise AI components (required for all tactical and AI components): 34.3~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #6000 // Smarter general AI: 34.3~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #6010 // Better calls for help: 34.3~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #6030 // Smarter Mages: 34.3~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #6040 // Smarter Priests: 34.3~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #6200 // Improved Spiders: 34.3~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #6300 // Smarter sirines and dryads: 34.3~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #6310 // Slightly smarter carrion crawlers: 34.3~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #6320 // Smarter basilisks: 34.3~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #7000 // Improved doppelgangers: 34.3~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #7030 // Improved kobolds: 34.3~ENHANCED-POWERGAMING-SCRIPTS/ENHANCED-POWERGAMING-SCRIPTS.TP2~ #0 #15 // Install Enhanced Powergaming Scripts -> Accelerated Pre-Buffing Speed: v5.5.3 === I love everything I installed this time, from UI to tweak / AI/ Scripts etc. This is the best BG1 experience I have so far. Million thanks to the modders Quote Link to comment
jastey Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Thanks for sharing with us and your reviews! Much appreciated. Quote Link to comment
xiaoleiwen Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 (edited) Started BG2 and the Anomen repeated dialogues and turned hostile (because Sir Beverus turned hostile) issues at Windspear hill still happened. Anyway, reloading the quicksave that I made immediately after the battle seems avoided the issues- Anomen spoke once only, and nobody turns hostile before being teleported to the cabin. Probably is random, or just depends on how fast the teleport happens. There is definitely a incompatibility that caused this but it is not a problem now since I can avoid it (if Sir Beverus will not appear later). Edited December 5, 2021 by marcnivar Quote Link to comment
xiaoleiwen Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 (edited) @jastey Some questions for Ajantis BG2: 1) My reputation is 8 now because of the evil npc who joined the party. Will there be any problem if I choose the betrothed path and the reputation is too low (temporarily) when he joins? I remember his romance is affected by reputation in bg1. If there is problem, probably I should gain some reputation points first before getting him back. 2) Can I remove him from the group occasionally (when doing mod quest without crossmod) without affecting the love talks? I remember some romance will stop if you kick them out from the party (like Jaheira or certain mod npc). Edited December 5, 2021 by marcnivar Quote Link to comment
jastey Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 2. no the romance does not break if Ajantis has to wait somewhere. 1. Ajantis is much more tolerant regarding reputation for the engaged path (he knows his betrothed and believes it to be temporarily if it's low). He will complain, though. Have a look into the documentation/ajantis_reactions.txt to see when the romance will break, it's less rep only but n case the PC makes too many bad decisions that will make Ajantis leave. Quote Link to comment
xiaoleiwen Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 (edited) Spoiler Ajantis thinks it's a bad decision, if -if PC gave bad advice to Anomen after his sister's death @jastey Just to comfirm, my understanding is, if Anomen fails his quest, Anomen will comment he won't leave? Asking this because Anomen has to fail his quest to trigger romance with Clara in another MOD. --- Spoiler Ajantis' new beginnings romance will end, if -Ajantis warns PC after 4 bad decisions -Ajantis leaves the group because of wrong PC decision Does this apply to engaged path? Edited December 5, 2021 by marcnivar Quote Link to comment
jastey Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Bad decision means a counter counts down. If the counter is too high / low, Ajantis will draw a line. He will also warn before doing that. As long as your PC didn't plan on doing too many decisions Ajantis deems as "bad", he will stay. I know I made him much more tolerant if in an engaged path. I don't remember how tolerant, though. I'm sure Ajantis will complain a lot of he's uncontent. Hmm, looking at the list it seems the bad decisions are mostly important for the new beginnings romance (ends after 4) and probably for Ajantis' reactions in the dialogues, but not for the engaged path and also not for a sudden leaving of Ajantis. Quote Link to comment
xiaoleiwen Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 Thanks for explaining, looking forward to his content in BG2 Quote Link to comment
jastey Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 @marcnivar I released a new version of the Stutter Debug Tool: https://github.com/SpellholdStudios/Stutter_Debug_Tool/releases This should be more tolerant with regard to cutscenes and scripted events etc. If you still have a save before the Windspear Hill Anomen /Sir Beverus going hostile bug you could try whether this gives more clues as to what is causing this, I would be grateful. Quote Link to comment
xiaoleiwen Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 I don't have a save close to there at the moment but I can test it later. Anyway, I think Ajantis gave me something sound like final warning...probably because he warned me too many times on bad reputation. Started to regret to install a mod to slow down the reputation gained Quote Link to comment
xiaoleiwen Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 On 12/5/2021 at 5:06 PM, jastey said: Bad decision means a counter counts down. If the counter is too high / low, Ajantis will draw a line. He will also warn before doing that. As long as your PC didn't plan on doing too many decisions Ajantis deems as "bad", he will stay. I know I made him much more tolerant if in an engaged path. I don't remember how tolerant, though. I'm sure Ajantis will complain a lot of he's uncontent. Hmm, looking at the list it seems the bad decisions are mostly important for the new beginnings romance (ends after 4) and probably for Ajantis' reactions in the dialogues, but not for the engaged path and also not for a sudden leaving of Ajantis. Is there any console to look for the stage of the bad decision counter? I feel like I have triggered something looks like final warning, but I still haven't do Anomen's quest. It is the only bad decision I will make, but I saw the reaction documentation mentioned he will turn hostile if pc makes more than 5 bad decision, and if rep falls below 10. He warned PC repeatedly for low rep as I took quite long to make it from 8 to 10. Quote Link to comment
jastey Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I have a small mod that cheats up rep if you are desperate... The variable Ajantis counts the "bad" decisions with is "Global("C#AjantisWarUnzufrieden","GLOBAL")". Set it to something below zero so there's still some room for it to be incremented without problems, for example: C:SetGlobal("C#AjantisWarUnzufrieden","GLOBAL",-3) That's a minus in front of the "3". Quote Link to comment
xiaoleiwen Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, jastey said: I have a small mod that cheats up rep if you are desperate... The variable Ajantis counts the "bad" decisions with is "Global("C#AjantisWarUnzufrieden","GLOBAL")". Set it to something below zero so there's still some room for it to be incremented without problems, for example: C:SetGlobal("C#AjantisWarUnzufrieden","GLOBAL",-3) That's a minus in front of the "3". Thanks, feel safer now --- Checked the value, it is 5 in my game now.. Edited December 7, 2021 by marcnivar Quote Link to comment
jastey Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 5 is dangerous. He'lldecide you are evil spirited soon if you do not lower the variable. Quote Link to comment
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