How to remove portrait icon for Stun?

[pete_smith1229]

Using NI, I've created a spell for IWD:EE which causes stun using opcode "Stun (45)". I created another spell which is supposed to remove the portrait icon for stun but it doesn't seem to work. I've tried both opcodes "Remove portrait icon (240)" and "Prevent portrait icon (169)" but the stun icon is always present until the duration.

Any advice?

[subtledoctor]

It might be a hardcoded part of the stat associated  with the Stun effect? I don't remember.

[CamDawg]

Stun is an opcode, like sleep or poison, where you can attach a portrait icon to the effect directly in the special field on the EEs. If that's the case, the icon won't go away unless you're curing the underlying stun.

[pete_smith1229]

@CamDawg Thanks. Funnily enough, sleep and poison have an "icon" field where you can select the portrait icon and these can be removed without curing the status. Stun doesn't have an icon field so I wonder why some status conditions have this and others dont...

[Bubb]

The answer to "why doesn't an opcode do X" is pretty much that the devs never intended for it to be used that way. And yeah, I can confirm that op45 has no Special field functionality; it will continuously apply STATDESC.2DA["BAM_FILE", 55] while the target is alive.

Edit: And I don't think you can clear that cell to remove the icon. The engine falls back to [STATES.BAM, sequence=row+65, frame=0] when it encounters a default value.

Edited October 22, 2022 by Bubb

[polytope]

Note that many stun effects have a #142 : display portrait icon - stun tacked on, it's unnecessary as the portrait icon is automatically displayed as part of the opcode, as others have said.

Also, generally speaking with opcodes that trigger an associated string, icon or other secondary effect (such as the brief glow from #175), immunity to the string, icon or whatever is usually disregarded.

[pete_smith1229]

Thanks all, this is very insightful. Wasn't aware that some opcodes are more of less generally hard-coded with certain triggers. Sounds like it would be too much trouble in trying to remove the stun icon so will leave it at that