I'm sorry to bother.;

[Miathyi]

Lovely, lovely module, thank you very much for creating it, for all who was involved.

 

This tme around, I wanted to romance Kivan. But, no matter what I do, Kivan never starts a single lovetalk ever since I've left Spellhold, and I'm all the way to the Elven city by now!;; @__@; I'm so confused. I had 11, I believe, in the Global KivanLove by the time I made it to Spellhold, and I was told that his wife was deceased, and whatnot. But I still haven't gotten any lovetalks whatsoever, and I even went so far as to not get any of the other romancable NPC's from the very beginning!

 

Could you please help me?

[berelinde]

You aren't going to get lovetalks, exactly. You may even get a few banters where Kivan refers to his wife still waiting in Elvish paradise. Kivan is in shock, and he is in denial. It's going to take a while for it to sink in.

 

You're going to notice that his friendtalks do warm up a bit.

 

Wait until you talk to Demin in Sudanessellar. You're probably going to have to get Kivan to talk to Demin.

[Kulyok]

Did you talk with Aphril in Spellhold? If so, wander around chapter 6 for a bit - half an hour should do it - and you'll get some rather romantic talks. If you haven't talked to Aphril(and she didn't tell you Deheriana is mist - is dead), you'll have to do it all over again from Spellhold, I fear.

[Guest Guest_Storm_*]

Yup in TOB the love talks really start, just click on Kivan to see if you can have flirty options besides the regular stuff like muzzing his hair.

[Miathyi]

Ah, thank you all very much for the feed-back. <3 I appreciate it greatly!

 

EDIT: Okay, I don't think I've even gotten any of the friendship talks, now that I think about it. I believe the only talks I've recieved are the event-related dialogues. Am I going to fast through the game, or something? ~_~ I even tried to get the friendship talk through ShadowKeeper, but that didn't do anything.

[Domi]

Could you prehaps forward me a saved game? Could be some variable did not set itself, and it's easier for me to scroll through them and see what's up. That you did not get any of the normal friendship talks needs investigating (not getting them probably stops the post-spellhold romantic sequence).

 

My e-mail is domi_sotto@gibberlings3.net

[Miathyi]

Nuts! @__@;; I knew I should've just waited before deleting my games. >_<; If it would help, though, I can tell you what I have installed for my BGII.

 

Also, does it matter if I had used ShadowKeeper to speed up both the Acorn talks and the Capture dialogues? I have no idea what that effects.

 

Would it help if I list the WeiDU log?

 

// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods

// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod

// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name

~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Pocket Plane Banter Pack for BG2: Shadows of Amn

~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Install SOA Banter Accelerator script? (Increases the frequency of interparty banter)

~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Pocket Plane Banter Pack for BG2: Throne of Bhaal

~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Install TOB Banter Accelerator script? (Increases the frequency of interparty banter)

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // General AI Improvements

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Boss Improvements

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Miscellaneous Enhancements

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Additional Shadow Thieves Content

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #4 // Alternative Harper/Xzar Plot

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #5 // Extended Reynald Sequence

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #6 // Intrigue In The Copper Coronet

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #7 // Rahul Kanakia's Potion Quest

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #8 // Revised Hell Trials

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #9 // Improved Oasis II -> IO2 Dialogue & Combat Enhancement

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #11 // Saving Sanik In Brynnlaw

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #12 // Burglary Of The Bookkeeper

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #13 // New Fate For The Dryads' Acorns

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #14 // The Tragedy Of Besamen

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #15 // Further Slaver Involvement

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #16 // Sending The Solamnic Knights Home

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #17 // Nazariel The Lich

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #18 // Reward Negotiation

~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #19 // :) ->

~SETUP-DUNGEONBEGONE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Dungeon Be Gone V1.4

~SETUP-BOM.TP2~ #0 #0 // Boards of Magick item pack!

~SETUP-EDWINFLIRTS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Edwin Flirts 0.1b

~SETUP-EDWINROMANCE.TP2~ #0 #0 // EdwinRomance

~SETUP-EDWINROMANCE.TP2~ #0 #1 // Restore Edwin's BG1 portrait

~SETUP-EDWINTOB.TP2~ #0 #0 // Edwin Romance ToB

~SETUP-EDWINTOB.TP2~ #0 #1 // New ending for Viconia Romance by Laufey

~KELSEY.TP2~ #0 #0 // Kelsey v2.1: for BG2 - SoA

~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #0 // Kelsey: ToB - Version 2

~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #3 // Install Default Kelsey portrait set by Wynne Lurty? (set 1 of 3)

~SETUP-GROA.TP2~ #0 #0 // Getting Rid of Anomen - A cutscene for the Kelsey romance.

~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Aerie Flirt Pack For SOA

~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #1 // Aerie/Solaufein Romance Conflict For SOA (Solaufein V60 or greater recommended)

~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #2 // Aerie Flirt Pack For TOB

~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #3 // Aerie/Solaufein Romance Conflict For TOB (Solaufein V60 or greater recommended)

~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #4 // Jaheira Flirt Pack for SOA

~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #5 // Jaheira/Solaufein Romance Conflict For SOA (Solaufein V60 or greater recommended)

~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #6 // Jaheira Flirt Pack for TOB

~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #7 // Jaheira/Solaufein Romance Conflict For TOB (Solaufein V60 or greater recommended)

~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #8 // Viconia Flirt Pack for SOA

~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #9 // Viconia/Solaufein Romance Conflict For SOA (Solaufein V60 or greater recommended)

~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #10 // Viconia Flirt Pack for TOB

~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #11 // Viconia/Solaufein Romance Conflict For TOB (Solaufein V60 or greater recommended)

~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #12 // Anomen Flirt Pack for SOA

~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #13 // Anomen/Solaufein Romance Conflict For SOA (Solaufein V60 or greater recommended)

~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #14 // Anomen Flirt Pack for TOB

~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #15 // Anomen/Solaufein Romance Conflict For TOB (Solaufein V60 or greater recommended)

~SAMURAIKIT/SETUP-SAMURAIKIT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Samurai Kit

~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Changes to trueclass bards and thieves, and unmodded game kits (required for other components)

~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #1 // Add new bardic store and thief items

~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #2 // Install Acrobat bard kit

~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #3 // Install Chorister bard kit

~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #4 // Install Dirgesinger bard kit

~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #5 // Install Gypsy bard kit

~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #6 // Install Adventurer thief kit

~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #7 // Install Burglar thief kit

~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #8 // Install Soulknife thief kit

~SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #9 // Install Sharpshooter thief kit

~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #0 // Sylvan Mystic Kit, by Polar Bear

~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #1 // Blade Master Kit, by Drizzt1180

~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #2 // Death Knight Kit, by Drizzt1180

~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #3 // Wushi Ninja Kit, by Drizzt1180

~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #4 // Creslyn's BG2 Item Pack

~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #5 // Archer of Sylvanus, by Drizzt1180

~SETUP-SPSTUFF.TP2~ #0 #6 // Arcane Fist, by Drizzt1180

~SETUP-TSUJATHA.TP2~ #0 #0 // Tsujatha v9 (BG2:SoA NPC) created by Sillara of the Tamari

~SETUP-TZSHOP01.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Magnificient Magic Shop

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Kidnapping of Boo by Cliffette

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Kalah and What He Was Promised

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #3 // "Cat and Mouse" (Bodhi hunts you in Spellhold) by Ghreyfain

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Gorje Hilldark and the Extended Illithium Quest

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #5 // The Pai'Na/Spider's Bane Quest

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #6 // Restored Crooked Crane Inn

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #7 // Restored Encounters

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #8 // Artemis Entreri in Bodhi's Lair

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Corrected "Xzar's Creations"

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #10 // Restored Hell Minions, by SimDing0

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #11 // Gorf the Squisher Fix, by Gebhard Blucher

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Item Restorations

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #13 // Yoshimo's Original Portrait

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #16 // Corrected BAMs and Scripts

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Corrected Character Names and Biographies

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #18 // Restored Minor Dialogs

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #19 // Restored Bhaalspawn Powers, by David Gaider

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #20 // Extended ToB Item Descriptions

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Throne of Bhaal Minor Restorations

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #22 // Justifier Kit

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #23 // Feralan Kit

~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #24 // Sarevok's Remorse

~SETUP-SOLAUFEIN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Solaufein Romance for Baldur's Gate II (SoA & ToB)

~XAN/SETUP-XAN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Xan NPC MOD for Baldur's Gate II, v2

~XAN/SETUP-XAN.TP2~ #0 #3 // Install alternate class for Xan? -> Change Xan's class to Sorcerer

~SETUP-KIVAN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Kivan of Shilmista

~SETUP-KIVAN.TP2~ #0 #6 // Select Kivan's Portrait -> Install Herd's Alternative Portrait for Kivan.

~SETUP-KIVAN.TP2~ #0 #7 // Install ToB Portion of the Mod

~SETUP-KIVAN.TP2~ #0 #2 // Select Deheriana's Class -> Wild Mage

~SETUP-APACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Dual Wielding fix and Rogue Shop

~SETUP-APACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Thief kit & HLA revisions

~SETUP-APACK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Bard kit & HLA revisions

~SETUP-APACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Chosen of Cyric Encounter

~SETUP-APACK.TP2~ #0 #4 // Shadow Thief Improvements

~SETUP-APACK.TP2~ #0 #5 // Elven Charm/Sleep resistance fix

~SETUP-APACK.TP2~ #0 #6 // Quicker Startout tweak

~SETUP-APACK.TP2~ #0 #7 // Kit descriptions Uninstaller

~GBTHFKP.TP2~ #0 #0 // Expanded Thief Stronghold

~GBTHFKP.TP2~ #0 #1 // Enhanced Random Encounters (w/Kensai Ryu, ToB req.)

~SETUP-RITEMPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Enhanced Girdle of Fortitude

~SETUP-RITEMPACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Patrick's Chainmail

~SETUP-RITEMPACK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Weakened Cloak of Mirroring

~SETUP-RITEMPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Replaced Crom Faeyr

~SETUP-RITEMPACK.TP2~ #0 #4 // Fixed Dragon Plate Armor

~SETUP-RITEMPACK.TP2~ #0 #5 // Ring of Power

~SETUP-RITEMPACK.TP2~ #0 #6 // Improved Anomen's Ring

~SETUP-RITEMPACK.TP2~ #0 #7 // Weakened Celestial Fury

~SETUP-RITEMPACK.TP2~ #0 #8 // BG1 Ring of Wizardry

~SETUP-BOTTOMLESS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Craig's bottomless scrollcases and gembags

~SETUP-BOTTOMLESS.TP2~ #0 #1 // Bottomless potion case and ammobelt (TOB required I guess)

~BW_HERBS_BG2/SETUP-BW_HERBS_BG2.TP2~ #0 #0 // Herbs and Potions Add-in for BG2 by Baronius, v1.0.3

~SETUP-SUBRACE.TP2~ #0 #1 // Morituri Kit made by Aroc (Ioannis Mantzouranis, aroc@otenet.gr)

~SETUP-CRSOA_B2.TP2~ #0 #0 // Corthala Romantique for SoA - BETA 2

~G3ANNIVERSARY/SETUP-G3ANNIVERSARY.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Gibberlings Three Anniversary Mod

// Recently Uninstalled: ~JZ/SETUP-JZ.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Jerry Zinger Show

// Recently Uninstalled: ~JZ/SETUP-JZ.TP2~ #0 #1 // Remove Delay Between Episodes

~SETUP-TWISTPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Combinable Protection Items

~SETUP-TWISTPACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Evil Rangers & Fallen Rangers Retain Abilities

~SETUP-TWISTPACK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Evil Paladins & Fallen Paladins Retain Abilities

~SETUP-TWISTPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Fallen Paladins Gain Opposite Abilities

~SETUP-TWISTPACK.TP2~ #0 #4 // FEAR: Fair Pricing For Evil Alignments/Low Reputation

~SETUP-TWISTPACK.TP2~ #0 #5 // Druids and Rangers Gain Find Familiar

~SETUP-TWISTPACK.TP2~ #0 #6 // Clerics and Druids Gain Breach

~SETUP-TWISTPACK.TP2~ #0 #7 // Expanded Weapon Proficiencies for Monks

~RTTITEMPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Install RTT Item Pack? **The items are added to the "special" store of Ribald (Adventure's Mart, Waukeen's Promenade) available after SpellHold.**

~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ascension v1.41 (requires ToB)

~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #1 // Tougher Abazigal (optional, requires ToB)

~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #2 // Original Tougher Demogorgon (optional, requires ToB)

~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #3 // Tougher Gromnir (optional, requires ToB)

~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #4 // Tougher Illasera (optional, requires ToB)

~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #5 // Tougher Yaga-Shura (optional, requires ToB)

~SETUP-TURNABOUT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ascension: Turnabout

~SETUP-TURNABOUT.TP2~ #0 #1 // Balthazar Epilogue Portrait, by Cliffette

~NPC_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Anomen

~NPC_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Cernd

~NPC_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Nalia

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #0 // NPC Kit Pack

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #1 // Anomen Gains Helm Kit on Passing Knighthood Test

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #2 // Anomen Gains Berserker Kit on Failing Knighthood Test

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #3 // Prevent CN Anomen Gaining a Holy Symbol

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #4 // Add Red Wizard to Edwin's Kit Description

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #5 // Give Imoen Adventurer Kit

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #15 // Change Korgan's Kit to Battlerager

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #16 // Give Mazzy a Proper Truesword of Arvoreen Kit

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #17 // Change Minsc's Title to Rashemaar Ranger

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #18 // Give Nalia Adventurer Kit

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #28 // Give Sarevok a Proper Deathbringer Kit

~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #29 // Improved Specialist Mage Descriptions

~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Tougher Sendai (TOB Required)

~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #1 // Alignment Correction

~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #2 // Class Tweaks/Fixes

~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #3 // Altered Spells

~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #4 // Improved Continuity

~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #5 // Cleric Kits

~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #6 // Monk High Level Abilities

~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #7 // Holy Liberator

~SETUP RGENIE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ribald's Genie

~SETUP-SPELL50.TP2~ #0 #0 // Extend Many Spells to 50th Level

~CROSSMODBG2/SETUP-CROSSMODBG2.TP2~ #0 #0 // Crossmod Banter Pack for Shadows of Amn

~CROSSMODBG2/SETUP-CROSSMODBG2.TP2~ #0 #1 // Crossmod Banter Pack for Throne of Bhaal

~CROSSMODBG2/SETUP-CROSSMODBG2.TP2~ #0 #2 // Crossmod Romance Conflicts

~SETUP-SUBRACE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Subrace Mini-Mod Pack Rebuilded version 0.76a Beta

~SETUP-IMPASYLUM.TP2~ #0 #0 // Improved Asylum Mod for BG2:ToB

~SETUP-IMPASYLUM.TP2~ #0 #1 // Spellhold Lich

~SETUP-IMPASYLUM.TP2~ #0 #2 // Improved Player Scripts

~SETUP-CWS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Cloakwood Squares -- The Mod v2

[Domi]

Not really, unfortunately. I am not aware of any sort of interferences, and it does sound like one of variables (P#KivanOffence being prime suspect) stoping the post-Spellhold sequence dead in its tracks. I am not sure which talks you missed from the SoA portion, but if you did get the acorn sequence, I am guessing that you were doing fine there. If you check the pinned SoA content thread, I can tell you if the talks you missed where sequential or not, and what were the conditions for them to trigger. But without a saved game, I cannot troubleshoot reliably.

[Miathyi]

I think the only friendship one I've ever gotten is the one where he begins with "You've changed." I'm really sorry for all of this trouble. ~_~ I wish I hadn't deleted the files. <Sigh.> Another lesson in patience for me.;

 

EDIT: Mmkay, I started a new game, and, after getting Kivan into the party, I saved. I sent you an email with it attached. ^^ I really hope that works.

[Domi]

heya, I run your new save really quickly and I saw nothing out of the ordinary with it.

 

-the "old" BG1 talks are all set up but are waiting for your Rep to be >11

-the acorn cycle sets in immediately after chapter 2 starts, and the first talk fires upon talking to Bayle. The only thing was that I did not see the acorns in your inventory and clua's them in.

-the "catching up" cycle sets itself there as well and will show up when timers expire.

 

The only really weird thing that happened to me is that by whatever reason right after talking to Bayle the first time it went into Chpater 2, then Kivan did his acorns talks #1 and then by some reason Chapter 3 started. I haven't seen it before and I assign it for now to the difference in the installs. If anyone else saw this happen, please, let me know!

[berelinde]

Are you saying that Chapter 3 started immediately after the first acorn talk, as opposed to the usual way - bringing Galen Bayle the money?

 

That is bizarre.

[Domi]

Yes, that what happened - I never saw that happen before, but I am not sure what caused it. My install is spartan, and Miathyi has a whole bunch of mods on hers, so using her saved game might have been the cause.

[Miathyi]

How odd. Yes, I've never had that happen on my game, before...and, to see if there was some interfernce with my other mods, I uninstalled, and then reinstalled, with only the Kivan module and DBG.

 

Though I get the first acorn talk as soon as I step into a building, say Ribald's shop. Is that not right?

[Domi]

That should be correct - it is a very quick timer, and it just does not want you in the Promenade proper (AR0700).

 

The interference would be not in your own game, but between your save and my install.

[Miathyi]

Alright, cool. Thank you for all of your help, I really appreciate it. ^_^

 

Mind if I ask one more question besides this one?

 

What time should the P#KiFriendTalkTimer start couting down, and what are the conditions? :3

 

EDIT: And another, if you don't mind. ~-~ I'm so sorry to keep bothering you like this. Uhm..when I was in the Underdark, and went to rest in the tavern's inn for the first time, Kivan suddenly popped up as if to talk, but then it just gave me the options as if I had went to talk to him. It was odd. o.o Then I rested for real thereafter, and nothing out of the ordinary happened.

 

I'm way past there, now, but I left a save there just in case I screwed something up terribly. >_>;