Durlag's tower fission slime bug

[Nathan82]

Hello.

I'm still playing on an install with SCS 34.3 so not sure if this is fixed in new version, but I didnt see it in the change log for 35.# and it might also just be a problem my install but thought I'd mention it.

Durlag's tower, dungeon level 3, I killed all the elemental critters and then didnt get transported to the chess board. I'm pretty sure the fission slime got killed without using fire, dont remember it splitting either. I was trying to leave it to last to make sure i used fire to kill it but there were a lot of other slimes and it must just of gotten killed along with everything else.

Googled it and found this froma  while ago - https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/231/bugfix-durlags-tower-level-3-no-teleportation-to-chess-room

This fixed the problem - CLUAConsole:SetGlobal("DMWWFissionBurn","GLOBAL",1)

I did a GetGlobal first and the response was it didnt exist.

Is this still a bug in SCS or just my install? Anyone else had this problem?

Thanks

[DavidW]

If someone can reproduce this on 35.x let me know. (I don't specifically recall addressing it but I'm not sure.)

[Nathan82]

Hello. I did a minimal BGT install to test this and check a couple other things.

Getting the same problem with stratgems 35.9

Tested as follows

Created a character, gave them 500000 exp and a few bags of holding from the start of ToB to make sure I had enough stuff.

MoveToArea ("ARD009"), killed the air aspect, Kaldran, phoenix guard and saved before entering ARD010

First tried killing fission slime with PC using hammer +2 and and Imoen using arrows +2 - it died once, didnt split, no progression to chess board, variable DMWWFissionBurn does not exist.

Reloaded and tried with PC using Flame Tongue (SW1H24) and Imoen using arrows of fire - fission slime died and game progressed to chess board.

So it looks like you can potentially get stuck here if you don't use fire to kill it.

 

WeiDu log;

Spoiler

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Let me know if there are any other tests needed.

Thanks

 

Edited April 24 by Nathan82

[Nathan82]

@DavidW hello, not trying to hassle you, just wondering if you'd had a chance to have a look at this. No worries if not. Thanks

[DavidW]

not yet, no - I'm afraid oBG2-only bugs tend to get deprioritized and I have a backlog of things to fix. Thanks for the reminder though, I'll bump it a bit.

[TotoR]

It does not seem to be an SCS bug this time...

The oBG script fire with "Die()" as a Trigger, but sometime scripts does not execute as intended...

The script is (with SCS):

Spoiler

IF
    Die()
    NumTimesTalkedTo(0)
THEN
    RESPONSE #100
        ReallyForceSpell(Myself,JELLY_SPLIT)  // SPWI951.SPL (No such index)
END

IF
    HitBy([ANYONE],FIRE)
    NumTimesTalkedTo(0)
THEN
    RESPONSE #100
        SetNumTimesTalkedTo(1)
        SetGlobal("DMWWFissionBurn","GLOBAL",1)
END

 

On 2/2/2024 at 4:44 PM, Nathan82 said:

First tried killing fission slime with PC using hammer +2 and and Imoen using arrows +2 - it died once, didnt split, no progression to chess board, variable DMWWFissionBurn does not exist.

So normally, this should not end like this and the fission slime should split in 2 when it dies.
However, the script uses ReallyForceSpell(Myself,JELLY_SPLIT) and with oBG2, this action is not fired when dead... Changing the action by ReallyForceSpellDead(Myself,JELLY_SPLIT) solves this.

This is a BGT bug.

[DavidW]

Nice to know!

[Nathan82]

@DavidW sorry for thinking this was SCS.

@TotoR thanks for having a look at this.

I edited JELLSPA.BCS as you suggested then retested as above and killing the fission slime without using fire now makes it split into two (both new slimes appear on top of each other and get stuck).

If you then do any fire damage to the slimes you get tansported to the chess board, not sure if thats exactly how its supposed to work but at least you don't get stuck.

The first time i tested this only the character that did the fire damage got transported to the chessboard, Imoen was still fighting the fission slimes but I've tested that again several times and can't reporduce so i think it was a fluke.

@skellytz or @Salk is this little edit of JELLSPA.BCS something thats worth adding to BGT-WeiDU or BG fixpack?

Thanks for the help everyone

 

[skellytz]

The return of the fission slime bug. This has already been reported. I need to test this myself, take a look at some previous discussions where Ascension64 claims it had been fixed, recheck why there were issues with ReallyForceSpellDead in this script, e.g., in TuTu, and what IESDP means by "unreliable action." The script might need to be rewritten (like in BGEE.)

https://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php?topic=23933.0

http://www.shsforums.net/topic/50499-potential-bug-in-durlag-tower/

http://www.shsforums.net/topic/47817-bug-in-durlags-tower/

http://www.shsforums.net/topic/55670-no-transfer-after-killing-fission-slime/

http://www.shsforums.net/topic/54703-very-minor-bugs/

[Salk]

Well, the two new slimes shouldn't obviously spawn on top of each other so the suggested workaround needs some work there. 

But since BG:EE has gone through the trouble of rewriting this process I guess the best bet would be to mimic their solution.

Edited Sunday at 09:36 AM by Salk

[TotoR]

On 4/27/2024 at 7:59 PM, skellytz said:

The return of the fission slime bug

Holy, It is a damn old bug.

The fix above, won't fix any vanilla bugs, it only let SCS do the trick with fire. If you want to fix all this, there does not seem to be an easy solution; you will have to rework the area script, the creature script and the spell. Don't know how EE fixed it but it could be a good start obviously.

11 hours ago, Salk said:

Well, the two new slimes shouldn't obviously spawn on top of each other

It is easily fixed by replacing Op151 in SPWI951 by a clone of Op67.