Shaitan

Sorry guys.

Multiple Save vs messages

The saving throw fix from ToBex was switched off (and I even did a new installation with the older beta0024) and I'm still having a bunch of save vs messages. Are you 100% sure it couldn't be caused by IR/SR?

Barkskin

The slightly reduced duration at first annoyed me (a fav spell) but it seems to be more appropriate ingame.

Spell Revisions vs A-Tweaks

As a sidenote: Using the scribe scrolls via A tweaks gives the older names when choosing which spells to scribe. Ie. Knock is still Knock on drop down menu given by A tweaks, but ofcourse yields a Battering Ram.

Monster Summoning I

I don't know you ended up with this spell? At a point you talked about making it level 1 with kobold and such?

Anyway are the monsters put to follow their summoner? I got surrounded with Imoen as the Hobgoblins continued to follow me. Sure I could order them away, I was just curious what is their "normal" behavior? Picture

Cheerios

Yup, Normal mage.

A dump of the red coloring mentioned earlier. The contigency has a reddish glow to it.

Nice catch, I use a newer ToBex version on this run than normal beta 25, test 12007, instead of what I use to run (without this bug) beta 24.

I'll try and see what happens.

Indeed Dakk

Web among others soes the same.

Oh yeah, that's right Jarno. So I do have a screendump, if that makes anything easier.

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When slow is casted against me, I get many save vs messages.

I would gladly make a screendump, but somehow PrintScreen only gives me a dump of my desktop.

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Using curative scrolls in the same manner the spells would indeed be more consistent.

I think I understand Ulf: (S)he doesn't mean the blue/green print on the scroll rather if you imagine you're having a scroll forbidden by your school then it get's such a red tone to the picture.

What about curative scrolls, shouldn't they be cleric only?

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Hello

First impression on using the regeneration spells is very positive, it adds a whole new dimension to the gamefeeling.

Hope others will enjoy it also.

Hi

Is this due to SR?

Regarding SPCL037.spl

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Hello

The first thing I noticed was the Readme needing some rearrangement.

Second, I know it has been a while since last time, but the potions part is adopted into the main component now?

Regards

Good idea.

+1

It would seem that Master Simian in the Bridge District is a bad merchant: everything costs only 1 gp. However his potions are not stackable with other (I miss that small little number by the side).

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Great to hear that Haldamir isn't scrapped wholly. Can he be with the party in ToB as of now?

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Hi

I know you've been busy, but is Haldamir ToB still alive as an idea?

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I actually changed my mind regarding Mist of Eldath: I think it should count for every one entering it.

Wants to point to Animate Tree http://www.shsforums.net/topic/54820-pnp-plant-creatures-animals-and-magical-beasts/page__view__findpost__p__542463 suggested by Azazello.

I don't find new cleric spells necessary

Protection from the Elements

Mist of Eldath

Within both PnP and IWD this spell had no duration (more precisely it lasts only 1 round), making it kinda weak imo (just a small healing effect plus cure poison/disease). I suggest instead to make this cloud-like spell last 1 turn as all other clouds. What do you think?

Poison Vines

I'm not 100% sure of it because it's 3E only. In terms of gameplay it would be the ultimate entangle spell, working as a party friendly Entangle + Spike Growth, with the added poison effect. Not extremely unique, but surely effective.

Tsunami

I mention it because it's really cool, but I don't think I can implement it unless we think a sort of Mass Striking Wave looks good (animation wouldn't be perfect imo).

Tortoise Shell ...and making it temporary increase maximum hit points may as well, does it?

I am against this as it does not seem to fit with the spell concept. Just make it grant a solid AC bonus and physical resistance plus the possibility of casting it on others to make it really appealing.

Restrict Fighter/Druids to Armor that Druids Can Wear I'll never understand the heavy dislike for that component.

Do not change it. I use it and I like it EXACTLY the way it is, Demi!

So, assuming we agree that the above direction is not a good one I guess we should change its sphere from 'Sun' (which is what suggest making it an anti-undead, blindness spell) to 'Elemental (Fire)', rename it just 'Searing Orb', and make it a sort of druid's version of Bolt of Glory. In that case yes, an ongoing fire dmg secondary effect could be fine. The more I think about it the more I convince myself that as a sun-related spell Searing Orb has no future as long as False Dawn is there too.

Lol Salk

Drown

I like the idea: Make it drown the lungs of target, also rendering panic and/or silence? Cured by cure disease?

Actually it's "cured" by any healing effect if we make it as per PnP (thus using BG's stunning damage), because the target doesn't directly die, it's only unconscious with 0 hit points (-1 in PnP). A problem in this case could be that any form of regeneration would pretty much make the target immune to this spell.

 

I could make it use a disabling opcode, but the most appropriate one (unconsciousness) isn't a flawless solution (e.g. an item protecting against sleep may end up granting immunity to this spell).

 

On a side note, judging by the readme I'd say aVENGER made water elementals use Drown, and he made just made it a save or die spell.

Tortoise Shell

Alternatively, we could use the older Magic of Faerun's concept of this spell (the one used by IWD), making it create an external shell (similar to a Globe of Invulnerability but protecting from physical attacks). Speaking of which, IWD/MoF's version of this spell is a 3rd lvl spell, whereas Complete Divine's one is 6th.

Stonehold

I'm fine with unfriendly version. Except it means no AI usage...

My problem with this spell is its concept. Balance wise as a 6th lvl spell it could probably be party friendly, but while I like its PnP concept I don't like much NWN's cloud version, and I cannot even imagine this petrifying cloud having any natural source. Is it just me?

Banishment

Well, not really a new spell because it's pretty much vanilla's Death Spell, but it's a new spell for clerics, and a very formidable one!

Spiritual Wrath

I mention it for completeness, but I cannot make it work as per PnP (it requires multiple casters there), and probably not even as per IWD. So, unless we think we like a Greater Holy Smite/Unholy Blight spell, there's little else to do with this spell. A better solution imo is to merge Bolt of Glory's concept with Spiritual Wrath to make the former better (as I suggested in the relative topic).

Whirlwind

This is a true must have imo. One of the most unique and iconic druid spell.

Tortoise Shell

Very simple, a MASSIVE armor class boost (it's up to +9 AC within 3E). Within PnP it can be cast on others, but I'd instead opt to make it caster only, especially because that would allow us to make it really powerful without worrying about balance issues (a Barkskin-like spell granting +9 AC to your best tanks?). Furthermore, while in PnP it doesn't stack with Barkskin I think instead it should, because the latter makes your skin harder, while TS gives you an external protective armor/shell. Anyway, do you think the concept is worth to be used? If yes, we'll find a way to make it shine.

Drown

In theory I like it (in vanilla we had a bunch of cold-based spells and no real water-based ones), but I find hard to make it perform a different role from Dolorous Decay, as they both are single target, save or be screwed spells. That being said, I have a similar problem for cleric's Harm, and depending on how Drown is implemented it doesn't necessarily do the same thing. PnP Drown is pretty much a save or die spell, with the only difference that the target doesn't immediately die, it lies unconscious and then dies if not helped (relatively easy heal check, or any healing spell) within a round. In our case an almost identical effect could be achieved using "stunning damage", but we could partially tweak it (e.g. the drowning may not be instantaneous) if serves to make it better.