Ardanis Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Just right now I've run into an angry bunch of drows, waiting idly for something at the center of the Underdark. Having no much desire to fight them in close quarters I went with a trick - memorised three Sunfires and put them into Spell Trigger scroll. Sadly, it barely scratched them so I've reloaded and began thinking what to do. Wanted to use Chain Lightning instead but recalled it didn't bypass MR. And that's where this thread's idea was given a birth - perhaps it would be good to mention in description whether MR affects a spell or not. What do you think? Link to comment
Shaitan Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 It would be convenient, but IMO more fun to find out when you throw the spell Link to comment
Salk Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I would like it because I do believe it's an important information that the player has right to know. So a big "yes" from my side. Link to comment
Demivrgvs Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I was doing it for V2, than I discarded the idea, though I don't remember exactly why. Anyway, as of now spells don't bypass magic resistance unless it is specifically mentioned otherwise in the descriptions. A few spells don't mention it because it was more of an engine issue/bug than intended behaviour (e.g. Sunfire shouldn't bypass magic resistance, but it can't be avoided). Thanks for adding some more work to do! Link to comment
Shaitan Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Thanks for hindering the release of SR3 Link to comment
Ardanis Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 So I'm the villain now. Ah well, who'd think... Link to comment
Guest Guest_scorpio_* Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I think it would be fine to mention for spells that DO pass MR that they in fact do so, rather than going through each spell and saying a 'yes/no' thing, since most spells are affected by MR; that is the whole point of MR. This would save time and makes sense if you ask me. Link to comment
Demivrgvs Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I think it would be fine to mention for spells that DO pass MR that they in fact do so, rather than going through each spell and saying a 'yes/no' thing, since most spells are affected by MR; that is the whole point of MR. This would save time and makes sense if you ask me.That is exactly why I previously discarded the idea...because in AD&D very few spells bypassed magic resistance and thus the information 'bypass magic resistance' is extremely rare in BG's spells unless we count in harmless spells. Anyway, it seems players who posted would welcome the change and no one is against it, am I wrong? I've already finished editing the arcane.tra file with the following templates. Divine spells will take even less time. Grease Level: 1 School: Conjuration Range: Medium Duration: 1 turn Casting Time: 1 Area of Effect: 10' radius Saving Throw: Breath negates Magic Resistance: Yes Armor Level: 1 School: Conjuration Range: Personal Duration: 1 hour/level Casting Time: 1 round Area of Effect: Caster Saving Throw: None Magic Resistance: No Link to comment
Salk Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I am for changing the description including information about magic resistance but it would be as good just to mention in the spell description if a specific spell does ignore magic resistance (since I believe most of them do not). Thanks! Link to comment
Jarno Mikkola Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Grease... Magic Resistance: Yes Ahh, what? Does the magic resistance effect it or not... That looks stupid and is far less informative than, making them all have "Bypasses Magic Resistance" - label is far better option, at least for the attack&neutral spells(True Sight etc.). Edit: I ment to say something like this... Link to comment
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Grease... Magic Resistance: Yes Ahh, what? Does the magic resistance effect it or not... That looks stupid and far less informative than, making them all have "By passes Magic Resistance" - label, at least for the attack&neutral spells(True Sight etc.). I agree, that's not so good. Better wording would be something like: Bypasses Magic resistance: No or Blocked by MR: Yes And yes, bypass is one word; do not separate, hyphenate or anything else to it - it no longer makes sense if you do so. Link to comment
Jarno Mikkola Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 And yes, bypass is one word; do not separate, hyphenate or anything else to it - it no longer makes sense if you do so. Well, they are two words that make up the verb, they do make sense even if you separate them, but in this case you are of course right... Or else I haven't passed by the gas station. Unlike the B-locked. Link to comment
Shaitan Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Yes I agree; it has to be more clear than Magic Resistance: No Link to comment
Demivrgvs Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Grease... Magic Resistance: Yes Ahh, what? Does the magic resistance effect it or not... That looks stupid and far less informative than, making them all have "By passes Magic Resistance" - label, at least for the attack&neutral spells(True Sight etc.). Perhaps it's just that I'm in a really bad mood because of serious issues in my real life but "you really need" to start being more polite towards me. You've started a few topics by sentencing that "I really need to" do this or that, and now instead of suggesting another wording like guest did you preferred to state that my suggested wording was 'stupid'. Is it so difficult to simply say you don't agree?! That being said, peace&love. Anyway... I took the "idea" from 3rd edition manuals which use the following template: Level: x Components: ... Casting Time: ... Range: ... Target or Area: ... Duration: ... Saving Throw: ... Spell Resistance: Yes/No ...but if most of you agree it's not clear we'll opt for another solution, fine with me. Which one would you prefer between the suggested ones? "Bypasses Magic Resistance: x" or "Blocked by MR: x"? Link to comment
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