Domi Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 I have Shamelessly stolen the format from Thorium Dragon, wish I could steal 'completed tags too! City of Amn - Slums • dialog interjections for "Investigate activities in the Copper Coronet's rooms"- completed • dialog interjections for "Free Hendak and the slaves"- completed • dialog interjections for Copper Coronet NPCs - completed • dialog interjections for Slums NPCs - completed • dialog interjections for "Solve the riddle in the sewers" - completed • additional encounter for "Solve the riddle in the sewers" - completed • dialog interjections for Slaver's Compound - completed City of Amn - Promanade • dialog interjections for "Kalah's Circus Tent" - completed • dialog interjections for NPCs in the area - completed City of Amn - City Gates • dialog interjections for "Aulava and Tiiro" - completed • dialog interjections for NPCs in the area - completed City of Amn - Governement • dialog interjections for "Viconia At the Stake"- completed • dialog interjections for "Umar Hills Witch"- completed • dialog interjections for "Hunt for Valygar Corthala" - completed • dialog interjections for "Moira's Murder" - completed City of Amn - Graveyard • dialog interjections for "Working for Bodhi"- completed • dialog interjections for "Abducted Stuffed Bear"- completed • dialog interjections for "Kamir and Risa"- completed City of Amn - Docks • dialog interjections for "Crazy Celvan"- completed • dialog interjections for "Mad Cleric"- completed • dialog interjections for "Xzar vs Harpers"- completed • dialog interjections for "Hunt for Valygar Corthala" - completed • dialog interjections for "Working for Bodhi"- completed • dialogs for a scenery NPC "Sailmaker"- completed • dialog interjections for "Working for Aran"- completed De'Arnise Keep • dialog interjections for "De'Arnise Keep Invaded"- completed • dialog interjections for "Assemble the Flail of Ages"- completed Imnesvale • dialog interjections for "Malduf the Ogre"- completed • dialog interjections for "The Wizard's Daughter"- completed • dialog interjections for "Ranger Stronghold"- completed • dialog interjections for "the Hunt for Valygar Corthala"- completed • dialog interjections for "Shade Lord" and the Shadow Temple areas - completed Trademeet/Druid Grove • additional encounter for "Animal trouble in Trademeet" - taken out Brynnlaw and Spellhold • dialog interjections for "On the Streets of Brynnlaw" - completed • dialog interjections for "Talking to the inmates" - completed • dialog interjections for "Recovering Imoen" - completed • dialog interjections for "Bodhi's Hunt" - completed • dialog interjections for "Fight Irenicus" - completed • dialog interjections for "Yoshimo's betrayal" - completed Underwater City • additional encounter for "Sahaugin City" - completed Underdark and Ust-Natha • dialog interjections for "Adalon's Eggs" - completed • dialog interjections for "Working for Ardulace" - completed • dialog interjections for "Sleeping with that Male Drow in the Tavern" - completed • dialog interjections for "Solaufein" - completed Exit from Underdark • dialog interjections for "Elhan" - completed • dialog interjections for "Ellesime's Dream" - completed • dialog interjections for "Meet Drizt Do'Urden" - started City of Amn - Bridge District • dialog interjections for "The Man in Red" - completed • dialog interjections for "Solve Skinner Murders"- completed • dialog interjections for "Free the Sigil Troupe from the Planar Prison"- completed City of Amn - Temple District & Seweres • dialog interjections for "Find Haer'Dalis and the Planar Gem"- completed • dialog interjections for "Unseen Eye"- completed Windspear Hills • dialog interjections for "Bring the Acorns Back"- completed • dialog interjections for "Garren Windspear vs Firekraag"- completed • dialog interjections for "Not Tazok AGAIN!"- completed Suldanessellar and 9 Hells • dialog interjections for "Demin and Avatar of Rillifaine"- completed • dialog interjections for "Hell perafernalia"- completed Additional NPC banters • Haer'Dalis banter - completed • Edwin's banter - completed • Jaheira's banter - completed • Viconia's banter - completed Additional Friendship Sequences • Catching Up (5) - completed • Acorns (4) - completed • Unseen Eye Prophet and Quest (3) - completed • Tazok's Heart (4) - completed • Druids (2) - completed • Planar Prison (1) - completed • Archery (1) - completed • Spellhold/Underdark (4) - completed • Ranger (1) - completed Additional Romantic Sequence • Lovetalks (9) - completed • New ToL/Hells - completed • Bodhi's Abduction - taken out Player Initiated Dialogues • Area Specific - completed • Friendly - completed • Flirts - completed Deheriana's SoA NPC Banter • 1 with each NPC after restoration (except for Korgan) - completed Miscellaneous and Ridiculous • dialogs with Lilarcor - completed • Additional custom portrait (by Herd) - added as an option • Ranger Stronghold Advice - started • Kivan's Bow upgrade stuff - completed Link to comment
Ilmatar Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Omg! Why did you take Bodhi's abduction out? Link to comment
Domi Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 The one I wrote first was too Mary-Sueish; the standard one is too presumptious, Solaufein-style plus as Kulyok once pointed out an Elf should not be ressurectable after vampire transition. So, upon careful consideration, I decided that the mod is better off without one. There is plenty of content though as is, and I'd rather put in an additional dialogue about the elves and vampirism than send the players on the traditional jogg to the Temple of Amunator. Link to comment
CamDawg Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 an Elf should not be ressurectable after vampire transition. I disagree--Aerie and Viconia are both ressurectable after this encounter, so it's consistent and possible within the scope of BG2. Link to comment
Kulyok Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I think that Bioware made a mistake, and it is not good to encourage people to repeat it. But of course, as jcompton already suggested, it would not look good if one elf gets permanently killed during a vampire transition and another does not. So, one must search for other ways... or avoid the encounter entirely. Link to comment
Domi Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 I disagree--Aerie and Viconia are both ressurectable after this encounter, so it's consistent and possible within the scope of BG2. It is consistent and possible, but it is also well... repetitive, and, again, in Kivan's case, not justified, as he is not your lover per se at this point. In fact he is in a mire of his grief for Deheriana's permanent death, just reported to him in Spellhold. I really disliked it in Solaufein's mod that he gets abducted no matter what, even when another man is your love interest. I am painstackingly trying to avoid Kivan stealing spotlight and turning into Mary-Sue, dear as he is to me. Link to comment
CamDawg Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I disagree--Aerie and Viconia are both ressurectable after this encounter, so it's consistent and possible within the scope of BG2. It is consistent and possible, but it is also well... repetitive, and, again, in Kivan's case, not justified, as he is not your lover per se at this point. I really disliked it in SOlaufein's mod that he gets abducted no matter what, even when another man is your love interest. I am painstackingly trying to avoid Kivan stealing spotlight and turning into Mary-Sue, dear as he is to me. Fair enough--I just wanted to verify that the resurrection issue wasn't the only reason for excluding this. Link to comment
Domi Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 No, no, it was the case of reading back what I have written, thinking on a few discussions held recently, and reaching for the scissor. Link to comment
Ilmatar Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 It is consistent and possible, but it is also well... repetitive, and, again, in Kivan's case, not justified, as he is not your lover per se at this point. In fact he is in a mire of his grief for Deheriana's permanent death, just reported to him in Spellhold. I really disliked it in Solaufein's mod that he gets abducted no matter what, even when another man is your love interest. I am painstackingly trying to avoid Kivan stealing spotlight and turning into Mary-Sue, dear as he is to me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good point there. Okay, apology accepted. By the way, are you planning to continue the romance in ToB? Would me sense to me as it is in such an early stage when returning to Athkatla. Link to comment
Domi Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 It would make a perfect sense, yes, but unfortunately, my every plan for ToB romance involves going to Shilmista, where Kivan gets healed by communion with his land and his people, the PC solves a great mystery in the bargain, and I lack resources to do it properly. So, again, rather than doing it half-heartedly, I'd rather not do it at all. Link to comment
Kulyok Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 That sounds (sounded?) more than promising... But what exactly do you lack? Taking a year break after SOA portion is done does not seem a big issue to me. As for Shilmista itself, what could go wrong? Four pages of scenery dialogue, stealing bits and pieces from BG1 and re-assembling them into a new area, creating an item or two? If the story demanded that there be no TOB portion, I would be the first one to agree with your choice, but as it is, it seems to me that leaving the story hanging in mid-air after SOA is not the best design decision. Of course, there is also a question of me wishing to complete the relationship with Kivan, but it is immaterial. Link to comment
Domi Posted October 26, 2005 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 A number of problems: -I still have to finish SoA portion (a few months) -I need a *lot* more than 4 pages of scenery dialogue. I cannot write it alone. -I need to integrate 2 joinable NPCs into ToB (yes, Kivan *and* Deheriana) and to write a quest in such a way that it counts D in or out. -I need to write ToB romance -I need at least 4 major areas (Mountain Path, Encampment, Tree City and Spirit Soaring) with the Mountain Path that Hendyk made in a rough and I like it, the Encampment he made that I can live with, but I saw a better map to base it off) -I need a gothic cathedral placeable (for which I have an almost-the-good-angle jpeg) -I need the bloody magical Hill of the Stars -The story in Shilmista that I had thought I had had become so confused, that I don't know up from down any more -The story includes Drow -I need a way to integreate it all in the game -It all needs an editor -My time is very limited, unless I take a year off from my job or something -I owe a couple of time-cosumming modding commitments already -I have a RL goal achieving which will effectively put an end to all kind of hobbies -I really want to give the IWDx6 project a shot and that will most probably involve creative coding -Who is going to want to play it in another 2 years when DA is going to be out? Link to comment
Grand_Dracolich Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Getting Deheriana and Kivan would be tough in ToB. If you took the romance, Deheriana wouldn't pop up whereas, if you didn't take Kivan at all she wouldn't come up. But then again, that spirit thing (I forgot the name) can take "threads" from anywhere. But with Yoshimo being dead... It may have something to do with the Geas? If you need help with ideas, then you can ask me, I'm very good with this sort of thing, but I cannot help with making mods or anything like that. If you need help with that sort of thing then you might ask someone who made other mods like Return to Trademeet or something. You have my, and countless others', eternal support in this project. Link to comment
Grand_Dracolich Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Oh, and as for getting to shilmista, you can always take the Pocket Plane. Link to comment
Domi Posted October 26, 2005 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 There is no 'Fate Spirit' Kivan. The two ways to bring him into ToB are either romancing him, or both ressurecting and restoring Deheriana. In all other cases he departs beyound reach in the end of SoA. I am not short on ideas, I am short on time, skill and energy. Link to comment
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