BGEE/BG2EE list of mods (Children of Bhaal) - ask for opinion

[jastey]

1 hour ago, Cahir said:

But I understand your doubts, that it may look like mod is hosted on CoB site. 

This was not what I meant. I was aware the link to the download's page is already there.

Thanks for your work on this!

[Cahir]

3 hours ago, jastey said:

This was not what I meant. I was aware the link to the download's page is already there.

Then I must have misunderstood what was your concern. It doesn't change the fact that it does look a bit like it was downloaded directly from CoB site. My intention was to spare people some mouse clicking, but I have added myself additional work in the process. And the benefit is probably not that great anyway.

[Rizzen]

I love the list. I wished I would have known it, when i started to use mods. Great work!

[jastey]

3 hours ago, Cahir said:

Then I must have misunderstood what was your concern. It doesn't change the fact that it does look a bit like it was downloaded directly from CoB site.

With the link to the mod page directly beside, I don't have a problem with a direct link in principle, but I fear that we'll lose a handful of players who, without a direct download, would be exposed to the mod's description on the download's page and maybe noticed some details they would miss otherwise (e.g. that it's for BG1 and not BGII .. and other things players surprise us with from time to time).

Plus, saving you work is really worth skipping the direct links.

[Cahir]

Ok, it took me a while, but I finally managed to update download links and cleaning up some not working links. The rule of thumb I followed is as follows:

• Mods hosted on Github (GH) with Release page - link to download (Release) page
• Mods hosted on Github (GH) without Release page - direct link to master version (you can still enter the mod page by clicking "Strona" on modlist page). I chose this approach, because finding a download button for master version is not obvious to anyone.
• Mods hosted on The Gibberlings 3 (G3) - link to Download page
• Mods hosted on Spellhold Studios (SHS) - link to the mod page (you can then click Download button to download the mod). I chose to link to mod page and not Download page, because some mods are downloaded directly after hitting Download page and others directs to one more page, with various mod versions. To avoid downloading the mod directly from my modlist, I thought this is the best compromise.
• Mods hosted on Pocket Plane Mods (PPG) - link to the download (Release) page on PPG github. I did not check if mod versions on PPG site are up-to-date, so I chose to link only to PPG Github site. Since original links to PPG mod sites were not working anymore, I needed to correct all links. If someone wants to download directly from PPG site (not their github), you can still do it, entering through "Strona" link on my modlist, and finding download button there. But as I've said, I haven't checked if mod versions are up-to-date with github.
• Mods hosted on Black Wyrm Lair (BWL) - direct download from the link on forum or link to mod site, from where one can download the mod. It's a bit of disorganized mess on BWL, so I chose an approach mod by mod. Some mods are linked to direct download location (i.e Jini romance), others to a mod page (i.e Drizzt Saga). In any you can enter to a mod page (via "Strona" link) or mod forum (via "Forum" button)
• Mods hosted on thebaldursgatemode.com (a.k.a Chosen of Mystra) - since the site is down (possibly permanently), I relinked download links to direct download of the mod from alternate download sites: BG1 mods and BG2 mods. I chose this approach, because sometimes the name of mod is confusing, and it's hard to deduct what mod it actually is, without digging through the readme. Since the site is down, this is the only example, where you can download the mod directly from Children of Bhaal site *and* there is no separate link button to a mod site (because there is non-active at the moment) or mod forum. If anyone has any objections about this approach, I can relink downloads to BG1 and BG2 alternative locations, and users will need to find a mod themselves there. Just let me know.
• Weasel Mods - links to a mod page and alternative Dropbox location. I relinked the dropbox download to a mod folder, instead of the last version directly. This will save me time from changing the link each time Lava releases a new version.
• Beamdog forums - direct link to forum attachment. Majority of mods hosted on Beamdog forums are in the form of an attachment on the forum directly or leading to off-site location, like megashare, zippyshare etc. I chose a direct download approach, to save everybody's time of clicking through layers of different pages you are exposed on hosting sites. The separate link (via "Forum" button) leads to a mod forum, so anyone can read about a mod before downloading.

[Cahir]

As a separate point, question. 

There are still three mods on the modlist where PaulaMigrate was involved (updated versions of other authors mods, usually with EE/EET compatibility). Now, I know PaulaMigrate is Roxanne's alias, who is notorious in updating others mods without their consent and even against their wishes at times, but in those cases I haven't seen any official EE compatible release or haven't dug out any conversation that lead me to believe those specific mods were updated against author wishes, so I kept them on the list for now. BUT, if anyone asks me to pull these mods from the list, because there is a legitimate concern, those mods are totally unofficial and unsanctioned versions that should not be shared, I'll pull them off. Just let me know. The mods in question are:

Saerlith (there is an official v19 on Chosen of Mystra alternate download site, but AFAIK, it's not EE compatible).

Dorn Romance Expansion - since this is on original author's github, I assume Paula Migrate was just a contributor and trinit approved this. I think this one is safe to stay. But let me know nevertheless.

Kitanya - this is an SHS mod, so I assume there is a chance Gwendolyne (or others) may prepare an updated official version of this mod in the future, but at the time there is no EE compatible version except PaulaMigrate's. Now, I have no clue if this is only a maintenance update, or she included additional unofficial content there. Please let me know, if this one should stay or out.

The same situation with some Roxanne mods (under her Roxanne alias). Please let me know, if those should be pulled out or are safe to stay.

Kido

ChloeEET

 

Edited December 16, 2022 by Cahir

[Cahir]

A follow-up questions. Do you think any od the mods hosted on Nexus mods are worth including on the list? Most of the mods hosted there are portrait mods and I am hesitant to list them due to a potential copyright issues. Can anyone try assess if any of those mods are safe to list? The only mod hosted on Nexus that is present on my modlists is The Picture Standard, because it has (had?) its own site on SHS. 

Also, do anyone knows if ikonomov mods are available somewhere? They used to be hosted on SHS, but AFAIK ikonomov requested to pull them off and since I can't find them anywhere anymore, I had to remove them from my lists. 

Edited December 16, 2022 by Cahir

[jastey]

8 minutes ago, Cahir said:

do anyone knows if ikonomov mods are available somewhere? They used to be hosted on SHS, but AFAIK ikonomov requested to pull them off and since I can't find them anywhere anymore, I had to remove them from my lists.

They are on Nexusmods now. Links should be in teh SHS support topics. You find them in the Miscellaneous Released forum.

ChloeEE is save - LucyTheBeast was active in a discussion with Roxanne about developping the mod further so SHS team decided we link to it from Chloe's forum, too.

Kianya is not an SHS mod? It's from Rastor / rpgdungeon.net (which is down). I don't find a download for the original other than a version in @Gwendolyne's GitHub from 2010.

Thank you for your work!

[Cahir]

Thank you for chiming in, @jastey. I confused myself with Kitanya, by using wrong site abbrevuation on my list, sorry. For now, I'm keeping it until told otherwise, since it's only EE compatible version, and the lists ar all about EE mods. 

16 minutes ago, jastey said:

They are on Nexusmods now. Links should be in teh SHS support topics. You find them in the Miscellaneous Released forum.

Ah, completely missed to check the original post, my bad. The reason I couldn't find them on Nexus is because those are listed in original Baldur's Gate section, not EE section, so I guess I'll need to study again which of those mods, are EE compatible. Thanks, anyway! 

[Fishmalk]

The latest official versions of Saerilith work on BG2 EE.

On 12/15/2022 at 9:43 PM, Cahir said:

Saerlith (there is an official v19 on Chosen of Mystra alternate download site, but AFAIK, it's not EE compatible).

 

[Endarire]

Sir Neh'taniel on NexusMods is EET compatible.  Use that one and not Roxanne's.

[Cahir]

1 hour ago, Endarire said:

Sir Neh'taniel on NexusMods is EET compatible.  Use that one and not Roxanne's.

Thanks, I've changed download link to the one on Nexus Mods and upped mod version.

[Endarire]

That compatibility fix came about when I told the author about Roxanne's version and the author's determination and displeasure spawned an official Neh'taniel EET update.