Wish genies--destroyable by death fog?

[CamDawg]

Straw poll--the bigg (who now has access here) posted changes for wish01.cre and wish02.cre (the SoA and ToB versions of the wish genies, respectively). There are a number of inconsistencies between the two files. Given that the same spell summons both I'm in favor of making them identical, save for the script/dialogue differences we need to account for the SoA/ToB split. The one question I'd like to ask, though--one has gender neither (SoA) and the other gender summoned, making for a question: should they be classed as summoned and subject to spells such as death fog?

 

edit: quick note--wish02 is gender summoned but has 100% MR, so it may be a moot point. Out of the two, though, wish02 does seem to be the more consistent. Differences are (SoA values first, ToB second)

• first level/second/third: 8/1/1 vs 25/0/0
  
• magic resistance: 0 vs 100
  
• wisdom, dexterity: 9 v 17
  
• gender: neither v summoned
  
• ToB is translucent and has a 'remove foot circle' ring
  

[Andyr]

I'd go with WISH02 (summoned, MR, wis 17 etc).

[devSin]

I'd keep the summoned gender but go wish02 for everything else (especially the non-selectable, so you can't force-talk it with a higher wis char, cheaters). I don't think the magic resistance comes into play (the spells target eff destself on gender summoned, and I imagine it bypasses resistance).

 

Locally, I think I made them both gender neither, but I don't ever cast wish and never understood the ways they could be exploited (still don't).

[SimDing0]

Wish is a wishing spell, not a summoning spell. You're clearly not meant to be able to interact with it beyond making the actual wish, and this should include harming or banishing it.

[devSin]

Suzzah! Good enough for me.

[BigRob]

Sounds right to me, the genie states that he is the conduit that the wish is granted through, so one might consider that he's not completely there. Wish02.cre looks the way to go.

[the bigg]

In PnP, there is no genie at all, and the wish spells should have been implemented by summoning an hidden rabbit and have it ActionOverride(LastSummonerOf(Myself),StartDialogue(Myself,"Wish01"))

 

However, to keep to the PnP effects and the BGII implementation, you should keep it as wish02 with a non-hardcoded gender flag (I can't recall if NIETHER has some kind of hardcoded limit).

[CamDawg]

IIRC only summoned (6) has a limit.

 

And to save Sim a post, "f*** PnP" (though he would have filled in the stars).

 

Looks like we'll go with wish02 but with a neither (4) gender.

[CamDawg]

This is done and added to the wiki.