kijikun

Awesome! Is it safe to upgrade on a ongoing EET save? (I'm still in BG1 section)

Thank you both! I've never actually taken a look at SCS before.

Just what it says on the tin. It seems a little silly to already have heroic rep after finishing the Naskel mines. So are there any mods that make you work for the 20 rep a little harder?

If you'd just said that and not the monkey comparison we wouldn't be here. The issue was not your disagreement of drow being able to pass as a surface elf. The issue was/is the monkey comparison. This has been explained to you and I don't care to debate with you any further on any of this.

My objection was the comparison to drow being able to pass for a surface elf being as likely as a monkey passing as a human. Which is rather tasteless if divorced from the real world, and in light of the real world offensive as all get out. Especially since it was unneeded comparison when someone (me) just shared one of their personal rp idea they use in the game and hence why they liked the subrace mod. To burst out the monkey comparison, pic and all; was again at best tasteless at worst deeply racist.

From the forrgotten realms wiki because I cannot be assed to get out my second ed books when your being an ass to me about my personal rp ideas in my own game - "Drow skin tones ranged from dark grey,[29] jet-black,[23] and obsidian,[15] (with various shades of blue),[9][25][24] the albino drow known as the Szarkai being an exception.[23] Drow had white, black, or purple teeth, while their gums, tongues, and throats could be red, pink, or purple.[23]" "Moon elf skin was pale, often with an icy blue hue. Moon elf hair was commonly black, blue, or silvery white, although human-like colors were heard of as well, though very rare." Also considering some of the debates about the drow, their skin color and real world prejudices do you not think maybe using a monkey for this is in really really fucking bad taste?

This would give you what you want. https://github.com/r-e-d/EEUITweaks/releases

See I always assume that if I'm playing a drow that they, well, pass for one of the surface elf races (ie like my icon, could pass as a grey elf) or is half drow half surface elf (and one of the shocks is that you are part drow, GASP) or idk under a long term illusion to look like a surface elf that gets stripped away by good ol' Jon in BG2. But yeah it's pretty much an rp thing though I very much appreciate mods like this that let me play around with it. I'm pretty sure my two fav romance mod elves would not be down so much for a drow lover (what would Xan find worse that your Bhalspawn or that you're any part drow). XD

I think the point is as we are getting very off topic is having random towns people attack you would be very annoying. Plus while I can see maybe the flaming fist stopping you a bit more often on the roads, I don't think towns people are going to start throwing stones at ever dark skinned elf that comes through with an obvious adventuring party. And probably all of it would be a bitch and a half to program for poor Tipun and I would say out side of this scope of a mod that just adds in subraces and their stats.

Thank you for testing all this!

How does this work with this like the portrait picker from eetui tweaks?

Sounds good. ^_^

Thank you everyone for your replies!

Can this be installed after EET_end or is that way to late in the install?

It would also get very annoying very quickly.

Plus neither of these make sense for a Drow raised on the surface. Drow didn't start being able to use their magic outside the underdark until the mid 1361 DR and the game takes in 1368. Maybe an option for another drow to teach a PC drow Faerie fire but only be able to do it once a day?

It'll be interesting to see how this gets incorporated in mods in the future. Like even just mods that add conversations and injections from companions about the players subrace (maybe some bonding between Viconia if your a drow etc). I would suggest maybe removing the light blindness from the PC if possible since they would have lived on the surface their whole life. Maybe have them loose Faire Fire in exchange? (if we're going off of canon I'm not even sure if the Daughter of the Drow events have happened yet). Also would you consider adding something in like Kismet's half-drow half -elf? She has the 3.5 stats for them and for half drow half human though they'd need a bit of tweaking to fit into the games (ie translating the bonus to spot checks into maybe spot trap bonus).

Might be a few days as I'm still in BG1 but I will update as soon as I get into that part of BG2. Thank you so much for the mod, I'm looking forward to getting into it.

When I hit there in my own game I'll see what happens since I am playing a female drow.

Take your time! Thank you so much for this mod. I love that the Soulfein mod is already using checks for it! I was wondering would the engine be able to parse mixed ancestry? Like a half elf that has two elven parents but one is Drow and the other is say a moon elf? (More curious about what the engine can be made to check for with flags).