Requests for BG1 *contains SPOILERS*

[Flarn]

Berelinde, good news about Gavin - if the yucky discipline issue isn't really an issue I'm so relieved.

 

Also, yay for not making the PC have kids on the road! To tell you the truth I got sort of scared that maybe the herbs would fail and the PC would find herself in a predicament, but that would be opening a can of worms you probably don't want to open.

 

Incidentally, have you ever read the D&D guide to unlawful carnal knowledge? (http://www.textfiles.com/rpg/carnal.txt) People who write romances may find it useful. It certainly sheds some new light on Gavin's constitution scores.

 

Flarn

[berelinde]

Incidentally, have you ever read the D&D guide to unlawful carnal knowledge? (http://www.textfiles.com/rpg/carnal.txt) People who write romances may find it useful. It certainly sheds some new light on Gavin's constitution scores.

 

Er... no, actually, I'd never heard of these. I suspect that I should not access these files from my work computer. In any case, I hope he doesn't disappoint.

 

Edit: I decided to risk it. I don't know which distubs me more, that someone would actually take the time to write all that (all 143 typewritten pages of it), or that I will undoubtedly read it, at some point.

[Eleima]

I decided to risk it. I don't know which distubs me more, that someone would actually take the time to write all that (all 143 typewritten pages of it), or that I will undoubtedly read it, at some point.

Well, you have fun with that, I've lost interest!

[berelinde]

I think I'll allow myself the time after I've finished the BG2 portion

[Kulyok]

Part of this is a power struggle between Gavin and Jaheira. Jaheira is relatively older than most of the other people in BG1, at least in racial terms, and is probably more experienced. She imagines that she is wiser, and therefore justified in telling other people what to do, for their own best interests, of course. But she is not that much older than Gavin. She just can't use the same maternal/intimidating approach that she uses with the younger party members. With him, she has to back off a bit. Immediately after they are engaged, she grills him about his devotion to the PC, and wins. This is definitely her guardian instinct talking. She isn't about to discuss this with her ward first. After their relationship becomes intimate, she tries the same approach, but this time, she receives what I hoped was a mild MYOB.

 

Thank you for that! You know, it does feel much clearer to me now. Sometimes I grasp it immediately as I see the banter, but sometimes it requires an explanation from the author - and now it does make perfect sense. I am sorry if my inquiry was annoying somewhat - I understand how it can be.

 

Incidentally, have you ever read the D&D guide to unlawful carnal knowledge? (http://www.textfiles.com/rpg/carnal.txt) People who write romances may find it useful. It certainly sheds some new light on Gavin's constitution scores.

 

Eleven minutes average?! Okay, I think I'll have something to read at work tomorrow...

[RavenBlack]

I discovered today that there are other Tutu NPCs...and I found that I adored Finch at first sight. I'm trying not to feel like a traitor. It's not working well.

 

Anyways, my question: will there be crossmod content between Gavin and Finch/Indira in the future?

[berelinde]

The simple answer is "not sure."

 

I'm not adverse to the idea, but it isn't a priority.

 

I love Finch. I imagine Gavin would be very happy in her company, too. I don't know if that would every happen, though, because a party only needs so many clerics.

 

Besides, Bons is working on TBH, and has better things to do than go through the agony of cross-mod banter. But then, so do Kulyok, Domi, and Jastey, and they've been absolutely super about it. So I really have no excuse for not looking into it.

 

I don't know how much Indira's author is around these days. I'd imagine that Gavin and Indira might actually be in a party together, and that they'd get along reasonably well, but I haven't really played with her in the party enough to form an idea.

 

It is unlikely that Mur'Neth and Gavin would be in the same party for long.

 

I do not know if the modder who wrote Mulgore/Xavia is even around anymore. I have not seen Jonathan's modder, either. So no crossmod for either of those mods.

 

So, the long answer is that any crossmod material is limited because of modder availability, so I'm ironing out all the kinks from the rest of the mod before I think about crossmod with anything other than BG1 NPC.

[Shieara]

Having to do with Durlyle (or however you spell his name). This is the basic dialogue I got after doing his second quest.

 

D: I thank you. Blah blah blah. Take them from me, and this kiss as well. I think...well...of you.

 

C: This sentiment is wasted on me. I have waited for a reward...blah blah...leave me.

 

D: My affections are worthless do you? Blah blah. I will speak no more to you outsider!

 

At this point Gavin starts complaining about how I kissed another guy.

 

I guess what struck me as odd about it is that Durlyle kissed charname, not the other way around, and her response was negative. So it's not like she liked it, or that the game's dialogue gave a chance to refuse. I was expecting to see something more along the lines of "I can't believe he kissed you. If he hadn't run off I would beat him up" as opposed to Gavin getting irritated with charname.

 

So I guess my overall point is that this dialogue didn't make much sense to me. If <charname> had been all over Durlyle or initiated the kiss, well, that would be a different story, but her responses ranged from neutral to dislike for him.

[berelinde]

Good point. After all, the PC is not given an opportunity to refuse the kiss until it is too late.

 

I'd like to extend the bottom of this state to give the PC the chance to tell Durlyle to keep his hands to himself, but I'm not sure how to do this without messing up what the BG1 NPC Project has. Probably better to just leave it alone and treat each response separately.

 

I'll add a trans action to that particular response that changes the outcome significantly. I can't imagine he'd be happy with Durlyle pushing himself on the PC like that if she protested. He might even say something directly to Durlyle.

 

In fact, I might just have him stick up for an unescorted female who finds herself the victim of Durlyle's attention. In that case, he would probably let a female who was romanced by someone that wasn't him be protected by her suitor.

 

For a female that was either romanced by him or not romanced by anyone, it might become:

 

D: I thank you. Blah blah blah. Take them from me, and this kiss as well. I think...well...of you.

 

C: This sentiment is wasted on me. I have waited for a reward...blah blah...leave me.

 

D: My affections are worthless do you? Blah blah. I will speak no more to you outsider!

 

Gavin: I should hope you won't talk to her again! How dare you assault her like that, without her leave?!

 

D: My intention was friendly, but meant nothing to her. You make too much of it.

 

G: Friends do not kiss like that. But you are right. I will desist.

 

Later, Gavin can ask the PC if she was upset by his forwardness. (Edit: only for an active Gavin romance, for this one)

 

Better?

 

Edit: CODED improved reactions for Gavin, romanced or otherwise (no checks for other romances)

[Kulyok]

In fact, I might just have him stick up for an unescorted female who finds herself the victim of Durlyle's attention. In that case, he would probably let a female who was romanced by someone that wasn't him be protected by her suitor.

 

I won't like any Xan's romance checks here, sorry.

[berelinde]

You're call. Gavin would be telling Durlyle off regardless, then. If that's all right with you, it's all right with me.

 

I would include a romance check just to avoid stepping on the toes of an active romance (any active romance), but if you would prefer the interjection not to contain a romance check, that's fine.

[Kulyok]

Yep, I'd prefer not to see X#XARomanceActive/Inactive, besides those moments we've agreed on. Thanks!

[Shieara]

That works for me.

 

Or another option would be to just allow charname a better chance to defend herself in Gavin's normal post-kiss dialogue. I can tell you that my charname would have had a few choice words for him about it.

[berelinde]

You could post them here. I can't promise I'll include them, but I'll promise to consider it. That's sort of what this thread is about.

 

So, post what you'd like to be able to say to him.

[Shieara]

You could post them here. I can't promise I'll include them, but I'll promise to consider it. That's sort of what this thread is about.

 

So, post what you'd like to be able to say to him.

 

Well, that's hindered by the fact that I...umm...can't write worth a darn. I guess I can make an attempt at it. Try not to laugh too hard.

 

"Gavin, he may have kissed me, but I didn't ask him to and I didn't like it. You act like I was throwing myself at him. I thought we trusted each other. How could you think that I would betray you like this?"

 

It's kinda melodramatic though perhaps.