Last call for SCS v32 fixes

subtledoctor · January 25, 2019

11 hours ago, Luke said:

According to your ReadMe, there's also the possibility to use any spell state (not just 252 - Evasion) and any Save (not just Save vs. Breath)........ That's why I said it's something to keep in mind when designing new kit passive abilities (oh, we can also give Evasion to Rangers .......)

Yeah - one of the things on my to-do list is to give rangers a bit of a boost in the hardiness department by giving them "Poison Evasion" and "Disease Evasion." Maybe give barbarians and berserkers a passive "Charm Evasion" instead of immunities activated by their berserk abilities. Etc.

But the default way the mod currently installs Evasion precisely mimics IWD Evasion.

DavidW · January 26, 2019

On ‎1‎/‎20‎/‎2019 at 12:02 PM, DrAzTiK said:

1- After killing Phaere and Ardulace, there is no alarm and no big fight. ( I had the same problem with SCS V31)

Can you tell me exactly how to reproduce this? i.e., when exactly do you kill them?

TheLoneTremere · January 26, 2019

The invalid code appears in the chat box as "Invalid:478172"

DrAzTiK · January 26, 2019

15 hours ago, DavidW said:

Can you tell me exactly how to reproduce this? i.e., when exactly do you kill them?

I have made some tests and it is very strange:.

if I give the solofein eggs to Phaere and tell the demon to move out (after the demon has killed Ardulace and phaere), the alarm does not work correctly ( journal is uptaded correctly however) and drows in the temple/drow city remain neutral. And no big fight also.

Others scenarios : I make a bargain with the demon . If I select the choice that the demon help me to fight drows, the alarm is set correctly, all drows appears hostile.

I I select the choice to have money or a powerfull item, the alarm is not set correctly and drows in the temple/drow city remain neutral.

If I give the true eggs to phaere, there is 2 dialog possibilities after the demon has killed Ardulace : keep quiet or prevent to Phaere to give the true eggs to the demon.

If I keep quiet, the demon become hostile ( but the demon looks weak and have no special power, ridicoulous HP), the alarm is working correctly.

If I prevent Phaere to give eggs, the demon turn hostile. ( and he does have some special power like wail of the banshee, symbol of stunning, detect invisibility but still ridiculous HP imo) the alarm is set correctly/

Imo this demon should be extremely powerfull but considering you make a big fight just after, it is maybe not a big deal.

Maybe it is a bug related to BGEE 2.5 because there is till some nasty bugs on BGEE...

EDIT : sorry, after making more test, it looks like everything is working correctly.

Edited January 26, 2019 by DrAzTiK

Ulb · January 26, 2019

But..unless you start a fight (by having the demon lord attack the drow for example) you are supposed to have time to escape the city before the drow turn hostile, right? It's always been like this?

Myrag · January 26, 2019

There is definitely something off about 'smarter fiends and celestial' component

Pit fiend from lvl 9 spell gate doesn't do anything besides melee attacks after initial improved invisibility
Fiends don't attack party, they even seem to prioritize the caster - lich at the gate casted two cornugons and pit fiend and they simply attacked him instead of player
Cornugons didn't seem to cast any spells either
Pit fiend also attacks other fiends rather than players

Also, why doesn't lich put protection from evil on himself?

https://i.imgur.com/WzA7Yow.png

I should add I play on Legacy of Bhaal difficulty with everything on (DEFUALT).

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Edited January 26, 2019 by Myrag

DrAzTiK · January 26, 2019

1 hour ago, Ulb said:

But..unless you start a fight (by having the demon lord attack the drow for example) you are supposed to have time to escape the city before the drow turn hostile, right? It's always been like this?

Ok I have made some test and you are right. The alarm is working correctly but it takes a long time. I remember that in the past, the alarm was set more quickly.

So everything is ok. Sorry for disturbance.

Myrag · January 26, 2019

Spirit trolls in De'arnise are not using any abilities at all. Playing on LoB. I even changed setting from DEFAULT to maximum to check if its related to slider setting. Still nothing.

DavidW · January 27, 2019

On ‎1‎/‎22‎/‎2019 at 6:22 AM, Guest Macnube said:

Maybe not a bug, but I'm not sure if this is the intended behavior:

With all difficulty settings set to Hardcore, Osmadi (lvl 9 druid in BGEE) prebuffed with:

Armor of Faith (3 rounds + 1 rnd/lvl)

Barkskin (4 rounds + 1 rnd/lvl)

Free Action (1 turn + 1 rnd/lvl)

Ironskins (12 hours)

Given the structure of the encounter (it doesn't look like he appears in sight of the party, I was able to scout him out ahead of time) I would have thought that of the above buffs, only Ironskins, and maybe Free Action would meet the 3 rnd/lvl threshold set by hardcore.

Can't reproduce; it works fine on my install.

DavidW · January 27, 2019

And here's another list of collated bugs for my benefit:

- ~~Evasion is being partially imported~~ (Luke, 1/23) fixed
- ~~Hell dragons isn't immune to its own breath weapon~~ (Draztik, 1/23) Fixed
- ~~Possible use of SI:Abj, SI:Div in SR~~ (Draztik, 1/23) Looks like a false alarm or else some SRR effect (I don't officially support SRR); those spells don't even exist in an SCS+SR install
- ~~Mages don't seem to use Fire Shield, Acid Sheath, MS 7-9~~ (Draztik, 1/23) Fixed, except that I intentionally don't use MS9 on SR installs because I gather it's broken. You won't see Acid Sheath used as often as Fire Shield because it's too high level to fit in a Spell Sequencer.
- ~~Fiend summoning seems a bit too rare~~ (Draztik, 1/23) Frequency increased a bit, though still lower than it used to be; let's see what people think
- summoned fiends don't fight party even when not protected from evil, even with Improved Fiends active; seem to attack the caster; pit fiends and cornugons don't seem to cast spells (Myrag, 1/26)
- ~~Aerie, Jaheira have wrong IWD spell lists~~ (Angel, 1/24) General problem with assigning new priest spells; fixed
- ~~no-melee mode missing from Ease-of-Use~~ (Myrag, 1/24) Restored (it wasn't actually missing, but the hotkey to activate it was disabled)
- ~~priests using Sanctuary then attack in melee~~ (Draztik, 1/24) Fixed
- ~~weird elder orb bug in Planar Sphere~~ (TheLoneTremere, 1/25) Can't reproduce
- ~~Spirit trolls aren't using any abilities~~ (Myrag, 1/26) It wasn't working on Insane, due to a typo; now fixed.

TheLoneTremere · January 27, 2019

A quick note, i think i also had this occurrence with a iron golem as well, but i can't recall exactly. Either or, maybe it is something like an ability that SR/PnP changed around or so that these specific enemies try to call upon, which no longer exist of course, these occur in hyper specific fights like the elder orb in the planar spear.

Myrag · January 27, 2019

Captain Erelon doesn't do anything when attacked. Just stands there until he's killed. Probably has no AI script assigned.

January 27, 2019

9 hours ago, DavidW said:

Can't reproduce; it works fine on my install.

Thanks for checking - I just finished BGEE @ Hardcore (via difficulty slider) and I while I ran into a few more situations where the buffs may have been overly generous, it actually played well so I didn't pay as much attention as I should have. What was interesting was that it didn't seem to be a systematic problem, i.e. in many cases prebuffing behavior seemed to work as expected. How robust is the check which determines whether an enemy spawned in sight of the player? In any event, I will do a clean install for my next BGEE playthrough.

I'm about to start my SOD playthrough - anything in particular you would like me to watch for? I'm running a fairly minimal set of mods, NPCProject + SCS + CdTweaks.

AnonymousHero · January 27, 2019

I'm not sure if it's been reported or not, but... (I tried a search and found a report for v30, but it seems to not be fixed as of v32rc8.):

Various enemy mages will cast Cacofiend, summoning a Nabassu which will immediately start attacking them because they don't have PfE (I think that's why the demons might be attacking?). I'm playing at "Improved" difficulty per the slider. Maybe the mages are lacking a pre-buff which is otherwise 'automatic' in the higher difficulties?

(I've observed this with Yuan-ti mages and Tanova the vampire mage in Bodhi's lair.)

I'm not running any other mods which affect demon/mage behavior.

Edited January 27, 2019 by AnonymousHero

Myrag · January 27, 2019

52 minutes ago, AnonymousHero said:

I'm not sure if it's been reported or not, but... (I tried a search and found a report for v30, but it seems to not be fixed as of v32rc8.):

Various enemy mages will cast Cacofiend, summoning a Nabassu which will immediately start attacking them because they don't have PfE (I think that's why the demons might be attacking?). I'm playing at "Improved" difficulty per the slider. Maybe the mages are lacking a pre-buff which is otherwise 'automatic' in the higher difficulties?

(I've observed this with Yuan-ti mages and Tanova the vampire mage in Bodhi's lair.)

I'm not running any other mods which affect demon/mage behavior.

Yep. I reported this on page. Liches do the same. Seems like PFE is missing from prebuff script list. I think David missed this when making list of reported bugs.

Also, I know this isn't new v32 related but ease of use AI never worked for me on sorcerer in any SCS installation. Since new SCS relates standard customizable AI option in the game it could be worthwhile looking into it?

Edited January 27, 2019 by Myrag

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