Gwaihir

@Glam Vrock

Ran into another issue, this time with Flara's quest:

17 minutes ago, jastey said:

Or you add a Continue() at the end of that block.

This worked. Ygnatius appeared immediately. Also makes me wonder if every block should have a continue() at the end, and how many other blocks are blocked. Paranoia is an undispellable debuff.

Could Perwell be an Iron Throne assassin in disguise? The plot thickens!

1 hour ago, jastey said:

For Ygnatius: the variable was at 1 and stayed at 1 while you were in teh correct area?

It was 1 every time I checked. Loaded a save in the area, ckecked again right now, still 1.

Trying the stutter debug tool (I think. I don't exactly know what's relevant, I'll just try to describe what I see): there are six random spawn blocks running once every round. For example:

And then two blocks that run every second. Those that remove Xzar and Montaron after chapter 2 if you never take them:

Could this be what you mean by looping?

There's a small issue with Ascalon's questpack in this install. Tagging @jastey as I understand she's the current maintainer.

The great Karlini: Ygnatius is not showing up in BG2700.are(Lion's way). I did the quest as normal:

The relevant code in BG2700.bcs seems fine:

and the global "AC_QUEST_spawn_ACQ17001" was correctly set to 1. I just don't understand this enough to see what might have gone wrong. I was able to complete the quest by tiping those same lines in the console. Everything plays nicely from there.

Now that I think about it, I'll mention another small thing from the quest 'lost son': the quest itself actually plays perfectly, and the journal entry is closed too, but right after that I was left with a copy of Perwell permanently following my party whenever I went, until he met his demise by a sword spider. I say 'copy' because the animation of him walking away with his mom at end of the quest works. Maybe the code to avoid getting him lost inside Cloakwood on the way back was strenghtened a bit too much? It's a super small thing anyway.

There's also the fact that some items (like MISC83) are flagged as 'critical'. Shouldn't that be taken into account?

2 hours ago, subtledoctor said:

Is there a readme

https://github.com/Gibberlings3/SoD-to-BG2EE-Item-Upgrade/blob/master/SPOILER-ITEMS.md#new-spells-that-this-mod-adds

In the inventory 1 slot there's DW#RND17.ITM, added by the SCS component 'potions for NPCs'.

Allright then, it is as I suspected. Kind of annoying, but not too bad I guess. The worst part will be paying attention on the number of drops from enemies. In Davaeorn's case, I knew what item to look for, but it might not be the case for others, so might be difficult to even realize if something's missing. There is indeed such a thing as too many mods. Oh well.

9 hours ago, Guest Graion@Work said:

Do all items have an item slot assigned to them and if so, which?

Here's how item slots look:

So items without a slot are WAND02 (wand of fear), POTN02(potion of fire resistance), MISC83(key to river plug), DW#NODOR (mirror). There is basically a perfect match with the items not getting dropped.

MAGE05.ITM, as far as I can tell, it's vanilla. Did a full search for it inside the extracted mods folder, but nothing, and weidufilechangelog returns the same. It's the only Davaeorn's item without the droppable flag, so it shouldn't be dropped.

I got a doubt regarding a possibly annoying issue for this playthrough.

Here's the thing: after killing Davaeorn, he didn't drop the key for the river plug that allows to flood the Cloakwood mines. Looking at DAVAEO.CRE in Nearinfinity, he indeed has the key (MISC83.ITM), but it's only listed in the 'edit' tab, while there is no trace of it if I click on the 'view' tab, and then 'items/spells'. I also noticed that that .CRE has a total of 26 items, 16 of which assigned to an inventory slot, and 6 more equipped.

So I would like to ask: is there a limit to the inventory slots of any given NPC? And if so, is 16 that limit? And if that's the case, is it possible in a heavily modded game to add too many items to a creature, thus overwriting or simply 'pushing aside' already existing items?

There's also the case of the edventar's gift(MAGE05.ITM): in my install DAVAEO.CRE has that item equipped in the right ring slot; however, that item wasn't dropped either. This makes me wander: how exactly the items to be dropped after defeating an enemy are set? I can see a couple of 'DW#RND**.ITM', which I guess drop some random scrolls, but one would think at least those items from the 'items/spells' tab should all be dropped.

At the end of the day, I guess knowing the answers to those questions won't change a slightly sad fact: whenever I see a lot of dropped items from an enemy, I'll probably need to check that enemy's .CRE file to make sure I didn't miss any.

9 hours ago, Greenhorn said:

Sorry if this is off the topic but I thought SoB is still not compatible with BG1:EE or EET?

Well, there is an updated, EET compatible version that works. Only caveat is, you have to get it from Roxanne's site.

1 hour ago, Trouveur80 said:

I don't think using summons for occupying a mage for three rounds is cheese.

Depends on the situation, but I was talking more about triggering a fight and then running away, which is what I had to do in the Karhk encounter. This is obviously just my opinion.

Just reading at descriptions, the numbers seems a little bit high, at least when compared to other vanilla spells. For example thunder thrust has a base 12d8 damage + 1d8 per caster level, as a 6th lv spell this means.. 19d8 as soon as you can cast 6th lv spells? and it caps at 21d8? Imho it seems a bit much. Not too much, however. Maybe it needs better scaling.

The new fireball spells seem very powerful.. not only high damage, but additional effects; crushing earth does a lot of damage; cataclysm as a lv 8 arcane spell seems better than earthquake, a priest HLA. Also, I think ent summoning needs better scaling, the three versions are only 1 HD apart, doesn't seem a lot of difference. Maybe add on-hit entangle or knock down chance to stronger ents?

As for references in item descriptions, I don't think there's the need for the spells to exist in-game, for a description to make sense. It's just text, you can narrate the effects appropriately regardless if the player has the spells available or not. Imho, giving the players options is always the better choice.

On 3/24/2022 at 10:28 AM, Shin said:

I don't recall noticing it back in the beta

Well, it doesn't happen all the time and always in cramped places. I got the impression that it was most severe in some mod-added areas. I recall this dungeon from Secret of Bonehill (a recycled section of Athkatla's temple district sewers) where 2 pairs of party members got stuck in place for several seconds, and I could do nothing about it. That was the longest, so far.

On 3/24/2022 at 3:10 PM, Trouveur80 said:

Well, it.s only 3 rounds to wait... ^^

We all like some cheese from time to time, of course

Personally I find exploiting the system a little unsatisfying at times, so if for any reason that's the only thing I can do, it tends to disappoint a little bit.

So good

45 minutes ago, Shin said:

For me, the main upgrade with 2.6 (that you can't do anything about through modding/editing) is the pathfinding

If that's your main concern, rest assured that in an EET 2.6 install characters are still getting stuck on top of each other. Sure, doesn't happen very often, but it's there. At least, that's what I'm experiencing in my current playthrough.

@Mordekaie

If you install multiple components from a mod all at once using Project Infinity, the debug file will show the install log of the last component only.

When the install sequence is finished, or paused, you need to select all text in the log window (that's the lower right in PI) and paste it in a text file, then upload that file to be checked for errors.

1 hour ago, Trouveur80 said:

Arrows of Slaying

Yeah those will get the job done although you still need to take down Protection from magical weapons first, right?

@Lava

1 hour ago, subtledoctor said:

Sounds like a very cool change!

I actually agree. By the way, while fighting Kahrk I noticed that some spells seemed to be immune to the wild magic. Particularly beetle swarm and spider swarm worked 100% of the times without triggering surges.

Yeah, my bad, wasn't thorough enough when reading the doc.

8 hours ago, Lava said:

It's not a bug.

Oh, ok. Cool. Didn't know that. And it's totally not annoying, just different. If I may offer a suggestion, this change should be documented in the readme; not only does it seem a bit arbitrary (it's not tied to a quest, as you said), but it makes one of the 'boss fights' of the game (Kahrk) a lot easier, or at least cheesy, since the only choice I had was to wait for the SCS-added protections to wear off, and then gang-rush him, while any high level spell he attempted to cast was negated by a wild surge. Not to mention the final fight in the Firewine dungeon, which was basically a joke. Sure, wild surges go both ways, but it's random.

My point is, since those fights are almost all about luck now, not strategy (which is probably bad for a lot of players who mod their games) it might be detrimental for Shades of the Sword Coast, which is an awsome, awsome mod.

Sorry for the small rant, just felt like giving my opinions on this.

@Lava

So, in my current playthrough the Firewine Bridge and the corresponding dungeon are wild magic areas. And they stay that way at all times. Looking at the corresponding script, this might be unintended? By the way, this made the fights with Kahrk and the ogre magi and the mage in the dungeon significantly easier

IF
	!GlobalTimerNotExpired("WildmagicTimer","BG4500")  // Firewine Bridge
THEN
	RESPONSE #100
		ApplySpell(Player1,WILD_MAGIC_AREA)  // SPIN645.SPL (No such index)
		SetGlobalTimer("WildmagicTimer","BG4500",14)  // Firewine Bridge

What I did: entered the dungeon fot the first time from Gullykin, cleared that (already wild magic area) exited in gullykin to complete the quest, got back into the dungeon then into the bridge area, cleared that too, found

then stayed a bit longer and fought Karhk. All the while this is a wild magic area, even if I leave and return.