Unidentified Potions / Gemstones

[SixOfSpades]

A long time ago, I remarked on how odd it was that, no matter what your character's class might be, or how much INT or Lore you might have, you (and, indeed, everyone else) are an expert gemologist, able to identify any precious or semiprecious stone, no matter how rare it might be, with perfect accuracy and in the blink of an eye.

 

I suggest all gems and potions be given Lore values, and made to be unidentified when you find them. After all, one can hardly assume that all Emeralds look exactly the same, or that all Potions of Power will be neatly labeled, or that, should you be lost and badly wounded in the wilderness, it's perfectly safe to crawl into a cave, break open a dusty old chest, and drink the contents of whatever blue-colored bottles happen to be inside.

 

While I'm at it, it seems logical to grant Racial Lore bonuses, with Elves and Gnomes at the top and Humans and Half-Orcs at the bottom. Too bad the Lore can't be selective, like Dwarves get +20 Lore when identifying gems, etc.

[CamDawg]

Ooh, I like this idea.

[hlidskialf]

Sounds quite interesting. I'd go further to suggest that there be multiple versions of each gemstone/jewlery of different values. From cheap glass/brass&gilding copies of low worth, to high-end flawless specimens of exceptional value.

 

And if you do this, then I don't have to.

[Guest Guest]

I think that would be a neat feature, I'd enjoy that.

[the bigg]

Do I look silly if I point out that this mod already contains the opposedly oriented 'Identify All Items' component?

[BigRob]

Well, they're all optional components.

[Salk]

It's good to make TuTu Tweaks as cusomizable as possible. So having two Mods that lead to two opposite choices is not a problem, I believe. I usually am keen on modifications that makes the game more realistic without sacrificing playability and balance and this tweak would be something I'd like to install.

[Andyr]

I like this idea, too.

[Sorrow]

I like this idea .

[Kulyok]

I LIKE the idea!

[SixOfSpades]

To gain some sort of hierarchy, I'm playing a BG1 game all the way through--when I'm done, I'll go visit all the stores and take inventory of all the gems and jewelry I've sold them, and also tally up my cache of potions as well (I'll try to keep a record of all potions consumed in-game).

 

100 / number of instances of that item = item's Lore. Extremely common items, like Andar Gems and Healing Potions, will probably wind up having 0 Lore.

[SimDing0]

A good tweak on a similar note might be to make the cursed potions look like the ones they're supposed to be imitating. It's too damn obvious that you don't drink the murky stuff.

[CamDawg]

Heh, I was just thinking of a 'Less Stupdily Obvious Cursed Items' tweak a few days ago.

 

Potions and gems are done and will be in the next release--I used an algorithm based on price to set lore value--low end gems are generally

[the bigg]

Well, what about "cursed items's description is the same as the non cursed one"?

 

IIRC, in PnP Identify should reveal a magical property per casting, and cursed items were identified as actually being a benign counterpart (EG I recall a long sword -2 which would be identified as being +1)

And, scatter some cursed items along the player's path

[SimDing0]

I think it's potentially too frustrating if there's no way at all of identifying which items are cursed.