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Every time I come across a thief/assassin, they spam like potions of invisibility one after another backstabbing for quadruple damage and only target my mages, this is absolutely infuriating. Ive just visited the government district for the first time (litterially just got out of iranicus dungeon), and was making my way back to wakeems promenade, but every time i attempt to go there, it says you have been 'waylayed by enemies' and every time, the slaver thief of the ambush group uses these potions like no tomorrow. Potion>backstab>potion>backstab>potion>backstab D: Deffo do not remember theives having an endless supply of potions from vanilla SOA

 

Im just wondering if this is because of the tweaks from this website, or the tactics mod http://weidu.org/tactics.html as I need to uninstall this asap.

 

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Just want to note, even after they spam the potions an kill nalia within minutes, they absolutely rape the rest of my group. It seems I have boarded the rapetrain.

 

Well, at least Keldorn and my character survived..

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Sounds like a 'mod install order' issue. We need to see your weidu.log file to determine what's up.

 

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If you're NOT playing a mega-install (and if you don't know what that is, you're probably not), then...

 

Copy/paste the contents of weidu.log into a post here, or

 

try to attach the file to a post.

 

(The first option is simplest.)

 

If you ARE playing a mega-install, then attaching the file is best.

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If you ARE playing a mega-install, then attaching the file is best.
Or you could just post it in tags like these:

 

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Frankly, I think it's intended behaviour from Tactics/SCS2 or whatever. Sounds a bit cheesy, but as Hide() does not work in the scripting engine, someone implemented it via potions instead (which gives them a 100% invisibility chance, probably not too realistic).

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The 'waylayed' encounters in the city are pretty outrageous, besides the potion spamming, everyone in the ambush group has had around 10 'previously cast' buff spells. Jan and Nalia are almost instantly sniped by the backstabbing and barrage of slaver mage spells. This is due to tactics isnt it? I was expecting a slight increase in difficulty, but this.. bit more then I expected..

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Or you could just post it in tags like these:

 

Yes, spoiler tags.

 

 

Gotcha.

 

Frankly, I think it's intended behaviour from Tactics/SCS2 or whatever. Sounds a bit cheesy, but as Hide() does not work in the scripting engine, someone implemented it via potions instead (which gives them a 100% invisibility chance, probably not too realistic).

 

Ahaaaa. Well, think Im just gonna uninstall tactics all togeather, causing such a headache. What feels like end of dungeon boss battles, every time I move around the city is getting old fast.

 

Btw cheers for the help so far guys, really glad to see this forum is so active :)

 

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Ive started reading though that log, and noticed all those SCSII changes, jesus. Must have read it wrong as I just though it made the enemies a bit smarter and tougher. Will I have to restart the game if I uninstall it in its entirety?

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Ive started reading though that log, and noticed all those SCSII changes, jesus. Must have read it wrong as I just though it made the enemies a bit smarter and tougher. Will I have to restart the game if I uninstall it in its entirety?
possibly. not sure what all SCS2 does tho. Safest rule of thumb is to restart after changing the mods. You'd have to check in the SCS2 documentation if you can or cannot continue to use a save game after uninstalling. It may be that only certain components would require a restart...
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Sounds a bit cheesy, but as Hide() does not work in the scripting engine...

 

It does actually, both RR and Quest Pack use it extensively.

 

The point is, thief opponents actually need to have some points assigned into Hide in Shadows and Move Silently in order for it to be effective and this is rarely the case in the unmodded game. I think this is why most mods don't bother with it and just use a scripted invisibility spell instead. On the other hand, RR and Quest Pack grant the thieves proper HiS/MS scores for their level and use the Hide() action.

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Ive started reading though that log, and noticed all those SCSII changes, jesus. Must have read it wrong as I just though it made the enemies a bit smarter and tougher. Will I have to restart the game if I uninstall it in its entirety?

Well, that depends fully on your installation choices. I use SCSII only with "enemies do not prefbuff" and they are more difficult but behave realistically (since I never prebuff either).
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If SCS2 does not add areas, items, stores or extensive dialogue, then you might be ok uninstalling it and continuing an old save. In general, that is probably true here. But also in general, you want to start a new game whenever you install/uninstall extensive mods.

I think this is why most mods don't bother with it and just use a scripted invisibility spell instead. On the other hand, RR and Quest Pack grant the thieves proper HiS/MS scores for their level and use the Hide() action.
I think it is only reliable in the ToB engine, if there, as discussed at length here. You need the Enable Offscreen AI opcode (#293) which does not exist in SoA and certainly does not in BG1. So if you have a mod that's compatible with more than just ToB, you can't rely on it.
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I think it is only reliable in the ToB engine, if there, as discussed at length here. You need the Enable Offscreen AI opcode (#293) which does not exist in SoA and certainly does not in BG1. So if you have a mod that's compatible with more than just ToB, you can't rely on it.

 

In FotD I have thieves moving into the FoW to use Stealth and if successful, return and backstab someone.

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In FotD I have thieves moving into the FoW to use Stealth and if successful, return and backstab someone.
How exactly do you have them navigate to find fog of war? What happens if there's no FoW on the current screen? Let's assume we're using native resolutions (640x480 or 800x600).
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How exactly do you have them navigate to find fog of war? What happens if there's no FoW on the current screen? Let's assume we're using native resolutions (640x480 or 800x600).

 

If they are at a certain distance (not too close) to NearestEnemy, they use RunAwayFromNoInterrupt. Once they cannot see NearestEnemy, they will attempt to Hide. I use a combination of LOCALS and timers to make sure they do not constantly try to Hide, and will re-enter combat, etc. It is not a perfect script but I have been backstabbed due to it.

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Do you have a script example where this was working reasonably well? I can just look it up if you give me the name. (Goes for RR etc. too but I'm more interested in a BG1 working script that could be generalised to the BG2 engine.) Have you noticed any enemies getting "stuck" offscreen (due to the lack of Enable AI Offscreen in BG) until the player moves to reenable scripting on those enemies?

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Every time I come across a thief/assassin, they spam like potions of invisibility one after another backstabbing for quadruple damage and only target my mages, this is absolutely infuriating. Ive just visited the government district for the first time (litterially just got out of iranicus dungeon), and was making my way back to wakeems promenade, but every time i attempt to go there, it says you have been 'waylayed by enemies' and every time, the slaver thief of the ambush group uses these potions like no tomorrow. Potion>backstab>potion>backstab>potion>backstab D: Deffo do not remember theives having an endless supply of potions from vanilla SOA

 

Im just wondering if this is because of the tweaks from this website, or the tactics mod http://weidu.org/tactics.html as I need to uninstall this asap.

 

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Just want to note, even after they spam the potions an kill nalia within minutes, they absolutely rape the rest of my group. It seems I have boarded the rapetrain.

 

Well, at least Keldorn and my character survived..

 

it's from SCS2. pretty annoying but not difficult. prebuff with stoneskin/mirror image/invisibility or drink invis. potion at the start of the fight. cast emotion, confusion/chaos, slow, glitterdust, hold person, etc. and wipe them out. or uninstall "improved random encounters" component form SCS2.

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