subtledoctor Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, GawainBS said: I was just wondering why you'd chose an unkitted Wizard, except for dualing. Well, in this case you wouldn't. Edited September 20, 2021 by subtledoctor Quote Link to comment
Endarire Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 @GawainBS Single-classed Mages were often going Wild Mage for the low drawback compared to the bonus spell slot per spell level. I'm also +1 to removing the hard prohibition on schools for specialists. Quote Link to comment
Palanthis Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Hey there and thanks for this amazing mod ! Since the "Innate sequencer" component of SCS is now deprecated, i'd like to use your "Innate Metamagic" component, but want to be sure i can safely use T&B with SCS. From what DavidW said, it should be, but he couldn't confirm it. In this case SCS should be installed last, right ? I read a really interesting thread about the bugs sequencers seem to have, but i'd prefer to have them innate anyway. I plan to only use this component of T&B, along with "Indelible Familiars" which, i must say, is wonderful idea, and a balanced one imho. Quote Link to comment
subtledoctor Posted September 24, 2021 Author Share Posted September 24, 2021 46 minutes ago, Palanthis said: want to be sure i can safely use T&B with SCS I don't see why not. I use both. And I design everything I make with the assumption that SCS will be installed afterward, because I think it's almost a sin to play these games without SCS AI. 47 minutes ago, Palanthis said: I read a really interesting thread about the bugs sequencers seem to have, but i'd prefer to have them innate anyway. General guidelines for avoiding glitches with these sequencers are probably the same as for avoiding glitches with unmodded sequencers: Don't use ctrl-R make sure your version of Mind Blank is not buggy (I think the new versions of SCS and IWDification are fixed in this regard) Don't use ctrl-R If you use Resurrection and similar spells/items, make sure you are on 2.6 (or use a hotfix for 2.5, I think there is one floating around) Don't use ctrl-R Quote Link to comment
Palanthis Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Thanks a lot for the quick and detailed answer ! I'll be running a new game on 2.6 and latest version of SCS. I should be good. Quote Link to comment
Graion Dilach Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) Seems latest Tome & Blood doesn't work well with the Argent77 Chaos Sorcerer kit. Installing the following sorcerer-related components in the following order in an EET game ends up with a Chaos Sorcerer CHARNAME starting with 18 charisma @ Candlekeep unable to pick any spells and Neera picked up as lv1 lacking any spell slots even. I presume the additional default spells included with Chaos Sorc throws the calculations off. ~A7-CHAOSSORCERER\A7-CHAOSSORCERER.TP2~ #0 #0 // "Chaos Sorcerer" kit: 2.6 ~A7-CHAOSSORCERER\A7-CHAOSSORCERER.TP2~ #0 #30 // Add "Primordial Artifacts": 2.6 ~CDTWEAKS\SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2250 // Un-Nerfed Sorcerer Spell Progression Table: v9 ~CDTWEAKS\SETUP-CDTWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2261 // Alter Mage Spell Progression Table -> PnP Table: v9 ~TOMEANDBLOOD\TOMEANDBLOOD.TP2~ #0 #1201 // Rebalanced Arcane Opposition Schools -> No Opposition Schools: 0.9.17 ~TOMEANDBLOOD\TOMEANDBLOOD.TP2~ #0 #25 // Sorcerer: Magus: 0.9.17 ~TOMEANDBLOOD\TOMEANDBLOOD.TP2~ #0 #33 // Sorcerer: Sylvan Disciple: 0.9.17 ~TOMEANDBLOOD\TOMEANDBLOOD.TP2~ #0 #35 // Sorcerer: Revenant Disciple: 0.9.17 ~TOMEANDBLOOD\TOMEANDBLOOD.TP2~ #0 #37 // Sorcerer: Amorphous Disciple: 0.9.17 ~TOMEANDBLOOD\TOMEANDBLOOD.TP2~ #0 #67 // Choose-Your-Own Familiar: 0.9.17 ~TOMEANDBLOOD\TOMEANDBLOOD.TP2~ #0 #71 // Sorcerer Spell Switching -> Change spells every level: 0.9.17 ~TOMEANDBLOOD\TOMEANDBLOOD.TP2~ #0 #80 // Multiclass Sorcerers: 0.9.17 ~TOMEANDBLOOD\TOMEANDBLOOD.TP2~ #0 #82 // Mage Kit: Arcanist: 0.9.17 ~SCALES_OF_BALANCE\SCALES_OF_BALANCE.TP2~ #0 #100 // IWO - Yet Another Revised Armor System: v5.33 ~SCALES_OF_BALANCE\SCALES_OF_BALANCE.TP2~ #0 #102 // IWO - Functional Weapon Tweaks: v5.33 ~SCALES_OF_BALANCE\SCALES_OF_BALANCE.TP2~ #0 #124 // WPO - Fighting Style Changes: v5.33 ~SCALES_OF_BALANCE\SCALES_OF_BALANCE.TP2~ #0 #200 // SBO - Stat Bonus Overhaul: v5.33 ~SCALES_OF_BALANCE\SCALES_OF_BALANCE.TP2~ #0 #201 // SBO - Stat-based Bonus Spells: v5.33 ~A7-CONVENIENTEENPCS\A7-CONVENIENTEENPCS.TP2~ #0 #542 // Change class/kit: Neera -> Chaos Sorcerer: v4.3 Full WeiDU log, incase I forgot something. WeiDU.log Edited September 25, 2021 by Graion Dilach Quote Link to comment
subtledoctor Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 What does that have to do with Neera? Do you mean you can’t get through character generation, or you can make chaos sorcerer but then have no spells? Generally, with Spell Switching, you need to use the item ability to choose spells. There might need to be a compatibility patch to handle kit-specific spells for the Chaos Sorcerer. Quote Link to comment
Graion Dilach Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Look at the bottom of the excerpt. I reclassify Neera into one (to satisfy the lore/writing misconception with Neera's writing assuming wild mages are sorcerer-type innate magicians). Yes, I get through chargen but I can't select additional spells there, with only the provided-by-the-kit spells ending up available. Quote Link to comment
subtledoctor Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) Can you not choose spells with the item ability? EDIT - does the kit’s clab file have these lines? LEARNSPLS GA_D5XSOR1 **** LEARNSPLS AP_D5XSOR2 **** SPL_REST GA_D5SPM3M **** Edited September 25, 2021 by subtledoctor Quote Link to comment
Graion Dilach Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Seems to be, yes. https://i.imgur.com/Hcz0MF2.png 2DA V1.0 **** 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 ABILITY1 AP_A7_CS01 **** **** **** AP_A7_CS02 AP_A7_CS01 **** AP_A7_CS03 **** **** AP_A7_CS01 **** **** AP_A7_CS03 AP_A7_CS02 AP_A7_CS01 **** **** **** **** AP_A7_CS01 **** **** AP_A7_CS03 **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ABILITY2 AP_A7_CS04 **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ABILITY3 GA_A7_SP01 **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ABILITY4 GA_SPWI328 **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ABILITY5 GA_A7_SP03 **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ABILITY6 GA_A7_SP04 **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ABILITY7 GA_SPWI124 **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ABILITY8 GA_SPWI222 **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ABILITY9 GA_SPWI723 **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ABILITY10 **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** SWITCH_SPL GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH GA_D5SWTCH LEARNSPLS GA_D5XSOR1 **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** LEARNSPLS AP_D5XSOR2 **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** SPL_REST GA_D5SPM3M **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ABILITY AP_D5_STAT1 **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** XTRA_SPL AP_D5ABSP3 **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** PROFS AP_D5PROF1 **** **** **** **** AP_D5PROF2 **** **** **** **** **** AP_D5PROF3 **** **** **** **** **** AP_D5PROF4 **** **** **** **** **** AP_D5PROF5 **** **** **** **** **** AP_D5PROF6 **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** Quote Link to comment
subtledoctor Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 Okay, then you should be able to click the backpack icon and use the “arcane spell knowledge” ability to learn spells. Unless, I guess, something messed with MXSPLSRC.2da before TnB was installed...? Quote Link to comment
Graion Dilach Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Damn, okay, I'm an idiot. Sorry, I really overlooked that the trigger for this one is at the item ability and not an innate. Yeah, it works, sorry again. Gotta recheck Neera but if she breaks, I'll just install the Convenient NPC tweak before TnB even, incase the problems come from there. Quote Link to comment
subtledoctor Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Graion Dilach said: Damn, okay, I'm an idiot. Sorry, I really overlooked that the trigger for this one is at the item ability and not an innate. Yeah, it works, sorry again. Gotta recheck Neera but if she breaks, I'll just install the Convenient NPC tweak before TnB even, incase the problems come from there. I understand an innate ability would make more sense, it's just that you are meant to be able to use it over and over again; with an innate ability, that would keep moving itself to the right side of the innates list and cause other innates to shuffle around... I can't stand that. Whereas, an item ability can be used over and over ad infinitum and it just stays right there in the same place. Also the innates list tends to get very long in modded games, whereas screen real estate in the item abilities bar tends to go largely unused. Learning spells from an item ability is always going to be a bit obscure for people the first time they use it; I can’t get around that. Mentioning in in a Readme only goes so far. But I figure, once you’ve done it once then you’ll know, and it will never be a problem again. There still may need to be a compatibility patch for that kit; I've never actually properly tested with it. But hopefully any incompatibilities should only be small glitches, not a "you can't cast spells" sort of thing! Edited September 26, 2021 by subtledoctor Quote Link to comment
stekraut Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 I have a question about the COMPONENT 95: Ability Score-Based Bonus Spells. Looking at the two attatched pictures (from a shaman in IWD:EE) you can see the "bonus priest spell slots" (first picture) under "Effects". Every time i am resting, these spell slots are removed (second picture). Do you have an i idea what can cause this? Quote Link to comment
stekraut Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 I just made a post; the pictures were not in the right position. Quote Link to comment
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