Skills and Abilities Mod

[morpheus562]

3 minutes ago, subtledoctor said:

Hmm, good point. I’m sure it could be done… certainly with op233/326, but maybe with only op206? 

Something like:

Song casts SpellA, SpellB, SpellC, and SpellD

SpellA has op206 protection against itself for 20 seconds and against B/C/D for 2 seconds

SpellB has op206 protection against itself for 14 seconds and against C/D for 2 seconds

SpellC has op206 protection against itself for 8 seconds and against D for 2 seconds

SpellD cancels Bard Song* and maybe has op206 protection against the Bard Song and also applies the song effects for 60 seconds. Maybe also op144 to disable the bard song button while the effects are active.

* I did this once, I forget how, I think it involved casting a dummy spell with op146 and also applying op363 for redundancy.

That may work with the vanilla songs, but when trying to account for a dozen mod added bard kits all singing different songs and having to dynamically create three versions of a different song that's going to be a much more difficult approach than simply letting all songs last one turn. 

[Lurker]

2 hours ago, morpheus562 said:

Any bard song that doesn't use op321 to cancel its effects before re-applying its effects is going to run into an issue with the Bardic Hat introduced in SoD. That allows bard songs to last multiple rounds and will cause bardic buffs to stack. @Lurker, please feel free to reach out to any mod author if you are seeing an issue with their songs stacking on themselves.

Sorry to have devolved your mod's thread somewhat, but since you and D5 are still discussing the bard song issue, I thought maybe tagging @The Artisan might be okay? I'm not active on SHS.

[dunehunter]

Hi I find there is a bug with the modified weapon style component with EEex’s lshift show target buffs component. As the additional bonus, penalty of style is implemented as permanent buff, it shows as (no name) when I use the show target buff feature. Wonder if there’s a workaround for it? @morpheus562

Edited June 24, 2023 by dunehunter

[morpheus562]

2 hours ago, dunehunter said:

Hi I find there is a bug with the modified weapon style component with EEex’s lshift show target buffs component. As the additional bonus, penalty of style is implemented as permanent buff, it shows as (no name) when I use the show target buff feature. Wonder if there’s a workaround for it? @morpheus562

I'm not sure what penalty of style you are referencing? Are you saying people are receiving penalties for not having pips in a weapon?

EDIT: I took a look and it is not an error, nor are the effects permanent. What you are seeing are the repeating effects that grant the bonus proficiency abilities. The reason it is showing up as (no name) is solely because EEex is able to peak behind the hood and allow the user to see the mechanics at play, and I simply don't have them named since there is no way outside of EEex or the radar overlay mod to be able to see these at work.

Edited June 24, 2023 by morpheus562

[dunehunter]

5 hours ago, morpheus562 said:

I'm not sure what penalty of style you are referencing? Are you saying people are receiving penalties for not having pips in a weapon?

EDIT: I took a look and it is not an error, nor are the effects permanent. What you are seeing are the repeating effects that grant the bonus proficiency abilities. The reason it is showing up as (no name) is solely because EEex is able to peak behind the hood and allow the user to see the mechanics at play, and I simply don't have them named since there is no way outside of EEex or the radar overlay mod to be able to see these at work.

yes these are shown because of EEex, I wonder if these can be hidden so EEex doesn’t show them?

[morpheus562]

7 hours ago, dunehunter said:

yes these are shown because of EEex, I wonder if these can be hidden so EEex doesn’t show them?

No way to hide them. I can maybe name each one, but I don't want anything to show in the combat log as it is repeating effects.

[Morgoth]

I was checking the component Update Weapon Fighting Styles (2H Weapons, 1H Weapons, Sword & Shield).

You are making me reconsider not going two weapon style for once, at least in BG1. 
But still, in BG2, I feel like the two weapon style is still superior to all the other style in BG2. Can anything at all be done for this? I doubt it. 

In the readme, it would be cool to have a table comparison between the weapon styles in: [Classic BG] [BG:EE] and [Skills and Abilities].

 

Edited June 26, 2023 by Morgoth

[Endarire]

I agree with the more detailed documentation.

[morpheus562]

11 hours ago, Morgoth said:

I was checking the component Update Weapon Fighting Styles (2H Weapons, 1H Weapons, Sword & Shield).

You are making me reconsider not going two weapon style for once, at least in BG1. 
But still, in BG2, I feel like the two weapon style is still superior to all the other style in BG2. Can anything at all be done for this? I doubt it. 

In the readme, it would be cool to have a table comparison between the weapon styles in: [Classic BG] [BG:EE] and [Skills and Abilities].

 

There is the 2h strength component in Skills and Abilities which will do 1.5x bonus to strength damage when wielding a 2h weapon. For example a character dual wielding with 25 STR will deal +14 str damage per hit. This would translate to +21 STR damage per hit with a 2h weapon. Additionally, Tweaks Anthology True Grandmastery provides +1apr at GM instead of +0.5apr, and Artisan Kitpack Fighter Overhaul provides +0.5apr bonus at level 20 or so for fighters. All combined do much to improve 2h weapons.

As far as weapon styles, none in classic BG, obg2 and the enhanced editions have the same styles.

Edited June 27, 2023 by morpheus562

[Morgoth]

This is a file comparing the skills: https://easyupload.io/dejin8

I don't know if you're interested copying it into the readme, but you are welcome to do so (that's what I was looking for when checking the styles).

I was a bit surprised, because I didn't notice before, that you removed the critical on two-handed weapon style. I guess you went for it due to the 1.5x bonus to strength damage? So, critical hits vs consistent damage, and consistent damage surely takes the crown.

 

[Scrip]

Привет. Спасибо за моды! У меня проблема с созданием свитков добавления заклинаний. После создания свитка постоянно проигрывается анимация. И звук! Мне больно в ушах. И неважно, кто создает свиток. Друид или маг. Эта постоянная анимация НЕ мешает вам создавать новые свитки. Если поставить твик на минимум модов - перевод, интерфейс и т.д., то анимация проигрывается только иногда, например когда выходишь из комнаты. Или вы меняете оружие. В общем, вы что-то делаете. Вопрос: как отключить анимацию или хотя бы звук создания прокрутки? Мои бедные уши! Я заметил. Что, например, создание свитков не совместимо с антологией твиков, точнее с ее твиком на более быстрое перемещение и скорость колдовства вне боя. Ну не совместимо. Свитки создаются, но анимация становится бесконечной. Так же как и с другими твик паками. И почему-то иногда этот твик не ставится в очередь. То есть надо ставить сначала его, а потом уже другие ваши твики. Я играю на своем смартфоне.

 

[morpheus562]

2 hours ago, Scrip said:

Hello. Thanks for the mods! I have a problem with creating add spell scrolls. After the scroll is created, the animation plays continuously. And sound! My ears hurt. It doesn't matter who creates the scroll. Druid or Mage. This persistent animation does NOT prevent you from creating new scrolls. If you put the tweak on a minimum of mods - translation, interface, etc., then the animation is played only sometimes, for example, when you leave the room. Or you change weapons. Basically, you are doing something. Question: how to disable the animation or at least the sound of creating a scroll? My poor ears! I noticed. That, for example, the creation of scrolls is not compatible with the anthology of tweaks, more precisely with its tweak for faster movement and casting speed out of combat. Well, it's not compatible. Scrolls are created, but the animation becomes infinite. Just like with other tweak packs. And for some reason, sometimes this tweak is not queued. That is, you must first install it, and then your other tweaks. I play on my smartphone.

 

@Grammar salad gonna throw this one to you as it pertains to scroll creation.

[moggadeet]

Really enjoying this mod, but it's got an odd interaction with the Faiths & Powers Battleguard kit. The Battleguard is supposed to be able to achieve proficiency with any weapon, but in-game is limited to cleric weapon groups and cannot attain more than specialization in the Divine skill - here's what I'm seeing ingame, and here's my weidu log if needed. Not sure if the issue is from this mod or from F&P, so apologies if this is a false positive.

[morpheus562]

16 minutes ago, moggadeet said:

Really enjoying this mod, but it's got an odd interaction with the Faiths & Powers Battleguard kit. The Battleguard is supposed to be able to achieve proficiency with any weapon, but in-game is limited to cleric weapon groups and cannot attain more than specialization in the Divine skill - here's what I'm seeing ingame, and here's my weidu log if needed. Not sure if the issue is from this mod or from F&P, so apologies if this is a false positive.

The link to what you are seeing in-game is not working. Can you also send me your weapprof.2da found in your override folder?

Edited July 4, 2023 by morpheus562

[moggadeet]

Weird, imgur's been very erratic lately. Does this link work?