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To clarify, both Fishing For Trouble and G3 Ascension sources are placed under InfinityMods organization.

52 minutes ago, subtledoctor said:

Really? Gross. I have v3.2.1 installed in my system right now... I guess that means it won't work in my game?  Sigh.

This is what v3.2.1 lacks https://github.com/InfinityMods/FishingForTrouble/compare/v3.2.1...master :

  • Fixed loop in final Akil quest dialogue
  • Fixed inconsistent villain name Levon vs Leron
  • Added remaining Tis for EE
  • various fixes for Cerendor Hold quest
  • fixed Tis files for large areas in EE games
  • added MacOS WeiDU executable and changed setup-fishingfortrouble.command file
  • fixed double spawning of tanar'ri at lighthouse and added missing leaving code

you might want to update for next installation.

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Caedwyr

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Since people are offering up their NPC suggestions, I'll give you my full list and not just the ones I had questions about.  I would appreciate any comments on compatibility, etc. from the criteria I previously listed.

Mods before EET

  1. BG1 NPC Project Music v6. I'm confused about this one, as the BG1NPC Project is listed as being recommended to install after EET, but this one is before in the compatibility list.
  2. Coran's BG Extended Friendship Talks v4.
  3. Finch NPC v4.0 Beta.
  4. Garrick, Tales of a Troubadour v1.26.
  5. Indira NPC v12.0 Beta 3.
  6. Sirene NPC v2.8.
  7. Valerie NPC v1.1.
  8. Verr'Sza NPC v5.3.
  9. Aura NPC v3.0. Is this EET compatible?  Anything special required for install order.
  10. Drake NPC v1.8.

Mods after EET

  1. Adrian NPC v5.0.
  2. Afaaq, the Djinni Companion v2.8.
  3. Angelo NPC v8.  I am on the fence about this one, as I've read that the character isn't really consistent with the portrayal in BG1 and I'd like to avoid a Weimer Solaufein situation.
  4. Auren Aseph NPC v10.
  5. BG1 NPC Project v24.6.  If I want to install the BG1 NPC Project music pack, do I need to install this before EET?
  6. Baldur's Gate Romantic Encounters v4.1.
  7. BG2 Romantic Encounters v14.
  8. Branwen NPC v5.
  9. Brandock the Mage NPC Beta5. Keep until Planar Sphere, but don't let into the party in SoA unless more content has magically appeared by the time I do the playthrough.
  10. Cernd Friendship v1.3.
  11. Chatty Imoen v1.3.
  12. Colours of Infinity - Foundling v4.4.
  13. Coran for BG2 v7.
  14. Corthala Romantique v3.
  15. Crossmod Banter Pack for BG2 v19.
  16. Dace NPC v5.
  17. Dorn Romance v3.2.
  18. Evandra NPC v1. Appears to be sparse on crossmod banter.  Get opinions.
  19. Gavin BG1 NPC v13.
  20. Gavin BG2 NPC v22.
  21. Glam's NPC Pack v3.1.
  22. Grey the Dog v4. Install after other NPC stuff according to readme.
  23. Haer'Dalis Friendship v1.2.
  24. IEP Extended Banters v5.6.
  25. Imoen Friendship v3.5.
  26. Isra NPC v3.1.
  27. Isra NPC for BG2 v3.1.
  28. Keldorn Romance v6.
  29. Kelsey NPC v6.
  30. Kivan NPC v16.
  31. Korgan Friendship v1.5.
  32. Korgan's Redemption v10.
  33. Longer Road v1.6.7.
  34. Mazzy Friendship v3.5.
  35. Minsc Friendship v1.2.
  36. Murneth v12. Is this a joke NPC, or one that fits into the game, albeit a bit unusual?
  37. Neera Banter v0.9.1. How well does this fit with the next mod on the list?
  38. Neera Expansion v1.1. How well does this fit with the previous mod on the list?
  39. NPC Flirt Packs v1.07.
  40. Pai'Na NPC v1.7.
  41. Petsy NPC v3.1. I know Lava has some warnings about their earlier mods being of lower quality, but I saw that this one had an update and redo more recently, so I'd appreciate any comments on the quality and fit of this one.
  42. Sarevok Friendship v2.6.
  43. Sarevok Romance v1.4. Is this one well written?  I think I recall a joke Sarevok romance, but this seems to be a more serious take.
  44. Sirene NPC for BG2 v1.9.
  45. Skie, the cost of one girl's soul v3.2.
  46. Solaufein's Rescue v1.6. Play intro quest, rest is in German until translated.
  47. The Beaurin Legacy v3.6.
  48. Tiax NPC for BG2 v6.
  49. Valygar Friendship v1.3.
  50. Viconia Friendship v4.5.
  51. Xan for BG1 Friendship Path v8.
  52. Xan for BG2 v18.
  53. Yeslick NPC v4.0.
  54. Yoshimo Friendship v4.5.
  55. Yoshimo Romance v5.2.

And the list of NPC/Banter stuff that I'm waiting for feedback or bug fixes to include in the master list.

  1. Ajantis BG1 v14. Watch for bug fixes.
  2. Sir Ajantis for BG2 v20. Only include if BG1 mod is included.
  3. All things Mazzy v1.049. Waiting for feedback as to quality, integration with Mazzy friendship and base game content.
  4. Ascalon's Bregar v9.0. Wait for updated version with English translation.
  5. Brage's Redemption v2. Watch for completion of BG2 content and translation.
  6. Colours of Infinity - Yvette Romance v4.1. May have a bug preventing a proper install.  Get feedback/watch for fix.
  7. Ninde NPC v3.0. Try to track down voiced version.  Merge basic battlecry voice pack if can't find fully voiced version.
  8. Sarah NPC v5. Look for EET compatibility patch on forums/update.
  9. Sarah NPC Music Addon. Include if using Sarah NPC
  10. Tyris Flare NPC v8. Include if a decent fit into the game among base NPCs.
  11. Varshoon NPC v5.1. Checking EET compatibility.
  12. Verr'Sza BG2 NPC v0.3. Find out if this is complete enough and bug free to include, otherwise only include BG1 version.
  13. Wilson Chronicles v1.7. See EET fix listed above.
  14. Yoshimo's Remorse v2.0. Check for EET compatibility.

 

Once everyone has had a chance to provide feedback on this category of mods, I'll move on to things like questpacks, etc.  I may have a few on my list.

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@Caedwyr Basically all of the BG1 NPC in BG2 mods (except Ajantis!) are likely to have continuity issues in EET, as in, if the companion dies in BG, they will magically return in BG2, or if you kitted them and levelled them in BG, they will lack that in BG2. This may not matter to you.

16 minutes ago, Caedwyr said:

BG1 NPC Project Music v6. I'm confused about this one, as the BG1NPC Project is listed as being recommended to install after EET, but this one is before in the compatibility list.

Just do as you're told on this one, it has worked in my install.

17 minutes ago, Caedwyr said:

Ajantis BG1 v14. Watch for bug fixes.

What known bugs are there with this?

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14 minutes ago, 4udr4n said:

Basically all of the BG1 NPC in BG2 mods (except Ajantis!) are likely to have continuity issues in EET, as in, if the companion dies in BG, they will magically return in BG2, or if you kitted them and levelled them in BG, they will lack that in BG2.

The latter - non-continuous cre between BG1 and BGII - is also true for Ajantis I'm afraid. But there is automated detection of romance status and if Ajantis is dead he will not appear. Please note: if he was not in the group in BG1 the mod added BGII content will also not trigger and the original cameo will be all you see from Ajantis in BGII.

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37 minutes ago, Caedwyr said:

Ajantis BG1 v14. Watch for bug fixes.

What known bugs are there with this?

The only one I am aware of is a malfunctioning automated detection how for the BG1NPC romance went if ends and the friendship dialogues are supposed to kick in. I have a fixed version on my comp but didn't test it yet, I will try to update Ajantis BG1 soon. If I missed any please let me know.

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16 minutes ago, 4udr4n said:

@Caedwyr Basically all of the BG1 NPC in BG2 mods (except Ajantis!) are likely to have continuity issues in EET, as in, if the companion dies in BG, they will magically return in BG2, or if you kitted them and levelled them in BG, they will lack that in BG2. This may not matter to you.

Just do as you're told on this one, it has worked in my install.

What known bugs are there with this?

Regarding Ajantis for BG1, there's this post from jastey regarding a bug fix that will go into the next version.

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Next up, for comments are the quest mods.  Same criteria apply, relatively unbuggy for a good play experience and should mesh well with existing game.  Extra comments/questions are listed for each entry.

BG:EE Mods before EET

  1. BG1 Unfinished Business v16.3. I believe certain quests are not needed with the EE versions and I'll need to do a deeper dive an figure out which ones.  I saw that Cahir's mega mod list install order had some information on which ones to prune.

Mods installed after EET

  1. Adalon's Blood v14.
  2. Alternatives v13.4.
  3. Ascalon's Questpack v2.05.
  4. Ascension v2.0.10.
  5. Assassinations v16.
  6. Athkatlan Grounds - Ooze's Lounge v2.5.
  7. Athkatlan Grounds - Southern Edge v3.01.
  8. Back to Brynnlaw v8.
  9. Baldur's Gate Mini Quests & Encounters v21.
  10. Colours of Infinity - Innershade v10.2.
  11. Colours of Infinity - I Shall Never Forget v5.7.
  12. Colours of Infinity - Tales of the Deep Gardens v12.4.
  13. Colours of Infinity - The White Queen v6.6.
  14. Dungeon Crawl v12.
  15. Eilistraee's Song v6.6.
  16. Every Mod and a Dog v8.
  17. Fading Promises v8.
  18. Fonick.
  19. G3 Anniversary Mod v11.
  20. Hidden Adventures Beta4.
  21. Lucy the Wyvern v5.0.
  22. Questpack v3.4.
  23. Reunion v6.
  24. Shards of Ice v7.
  25. Test Your Mettle! v1.2.
  26. The Lure of the Sirine's Call v15.
  27. The Minotaur and Lilacor v2.0.
  28. The Sellswords v8.
  29. Turnabout v1.3.
  30. Unfinished Business v27.

Mods that have issues that I am hoping to resolve

  1. Almateria's Restoration Project v8.4. Reportedly has issues with a component of BG1 NPC.  Watch for patches.
  2. Fishing for Trouble v3.2.x.  Which version should I be using?  @AL|EN suggests version 3.2.1 above, but I see a version 3.2.2 released by them as well as the later versions (up to 3.2.5) released by Roxxanne.
  3. Homeward Bound v8. Is this EET compatible?
  4. Jan's Extended Quest v1.5.0. Is this EET compatible?
  5. NPC Strongholds v8.  There was an enhanced edition patch link pinned in the forum, but the link is now broken.  Try to track this down and confirm EET compatibility.
  6. Oversight v16. Is this EET compatible for English language options?  It appears to be, but confirmation/testing required.  There's also a bunch of tweaks in here as well as the quest content.
  7. Tower of Deception v 4.01. Does anything special need to be done for compatibility?  Also, what is the quality like.  Is it Shadows over Soubar or something more akin to what you'd see qualitywise and intergrationwise for the basegame?
  8. Trials of the Luremaster for Baldur's Gate v2.0. How well does this integrate with the game?  Is it like a Watcher's Keep/Dulag's Tower or is it more like the old TeamBG megamod additions that are of varying quality and limited integration?
  9. Wheels of Prophecy v8.2. Look for patched version.

Also, with respect to Dark Side of the Sword Coast and North Side of the Sword Coast, my recollection from ages ago is that they didn't fit well with the base game, but I can't quite recall the reason (overpowered content, forcecast scripting everywhere, and stuff that felt extremely modded addon content compared to other mods that integrated well with the base game?).  I know I used to shy away from the TeamBG content due to their more amateur addon feel, but if these have been brought up to the standard of the basegame and the integration is fairly seamless, I'm happy to give them a shot.

 

Also, are there any other good quest mods I am missing that you would recommend?  I'm interested in anything both large and small which helps flesh out the world and give more options.

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8 minutes ago, Caedwyr said:

Also, with respect to Dark Side of the Sword Coast and North Side of the Sword Coast, my recollection from ages ago is that they didn't fit well with the base game, but I can't quite recall the reason (overpowered content, forcecast scripting everywhere, and stuff that felt extremely modded addon content compared to other mods that integrated well with the base game?)

NTotSC was revised and nerfed. DSotSC was also revised and nerfed, although not as extensive as NTotSC.

Please note: for PPG mods, please download from the PPG GitHub site if available. Lure of the Sirine's Call is v16.

11 minutes ago, Caedwyr said:

@AL|EN suggests version 3.2.1 above

I do not see @AL|EN suggesting to use v3.2.1. I see himn listing what changed for the newer versions because @subtledoctor said that he has the older version. The most recent version on the GitHub site should be the one to go for.

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1 minute ago, jastey said:

I do not see @AL|EN suggesting to use v3.2.1. I see himn listing what changed for the newer versions because @subtledoctor said that he has the older version. The most recent version on the GitHub site should be the one to go for.

Thanks for the clarification.  I appear to have misread the earlier post.  I'll also make sure to review my download links and grab the PPG mods off the PPG GitHub site when available.

I'm leaning towards considering NTotSC as I've run across a few reviews that make it sound balanced and what I'm looking for in a quest mod.  Opinions of others are still welcome of course.

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